Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:35220) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgFx4-00023X-62; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:43 -0700 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18sf4757810obb.16 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mU0UrWtePsz4Wq91AR3qiiIKD4SfX1AsjhTA+gd8/q8=; b=X9pw4jusK5+Ic/jG0Pt7V6oFmqUzSMlXpIxl2Fsmhf/XnfQv6AHRhqq7swWPBhZ/Gd 1gKBcyRFeyJ77OV4nbQA1r/fpCpRqwfUA9dZhOnW5bNxTCxSO23g4uf1lVdmVJef5Ex+ dl0OXyzh8Z75W+2iYLhLwWcVTEvg3kvD/R+Xk= Received: by 10.236.80.70 with SMTP id j46mr381345yhe.11.1339941331645; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.138.163 with SMTP id a23ls4912055yhj.4.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.157.1 with SMTP id n1mr21584953yhk.1.1339941331168; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.157.1 with SMTP id n1mr21584951yhk.1.1339941331156; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f170.google.com (mail-yx0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w40si4343152anp.3.2012.06.17.06.55.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.170; Received: by yenl12 with SMTP id l12so2532575yen.15 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.94.133 with SMTP id dc5mr6187873igb.16.1339941330920; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.15.74 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 06:55:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Wiktionary closure proposal. From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / >> << Attempting to describe Lojban words in Lojban is pretty silly, >> >> >> There is a point. =A0 By its own nature, isn't lojban vocabulary... >> "tautologic" ? >> > No more so than the definitions of words in any language. Well, yes and no. Or course, one can say that a chair is something to sit on, but when the language is specified in such a way that a chair is encoded as a "to-sit-on-thing" in its morphology itself, a big part of the definition process is automatized and thus, "silly". Remains only the pragmatic import, not the semantic one. So that a lojban encyclopedia makes sense, but not really a lojban dictiona= ry. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.