Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:57885) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgGbf-0002OE-9k; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:44 -0700 Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13sf2769417wer.16 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3sHP5B9Y6lyDbulQm55S+JXVuFBWEIClXN4UyMbwUpk=; b=IYbJWmhzxDC9msxQImJrAoP8yBuAkfC6npZI2Qg8ozUQHpffkX5Hx4MtRjThuMX893 yMQHglSOTdXfQlarlQiagMzIpV6fyK2vuCsvygSEauDatEDJPAeWUgqJEg8aPcXOwfpX wZ+mhnyt7//T+FlhMtWvHezRc7dWoqF1WZEWo= Received: by 10.204.16.197 with SMTP id p5mr574718bka.28.1339943847912; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.85 with SMTP id n21ls2748554bks.6.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr1462278bkw.0.1339943847369; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr1462277bkw.0.1339943847346; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si12143149bkc.3.2012.06.17.07.37.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.182; Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so6459504lbo.27 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.123.244 with SMTP id md20mr11536495lab.0.1339943846807; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:37:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Wiktionary closure proposal. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042f9cd802092d04c2abfdf5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d042f9cd802092d04c2abfdf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There are no "good" examples. You can't define selta'i without first defining both se and tatpi. On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Escape Landsome wrote: > > What? How is "to-sit-on-thing" encoded in the morphology of "stuzi" > > any more than in the morphology of "chair"? > > > "chair" is a bad example because it is a root > > but defining a selta'i as being the x2 of ta'i (or tatpi) would be > tautologic, hence, "pretty silly". > > On the contrary, speaking about the main facts we know about selta'i, > for instance, saying they induce headaches, would be clever, but this > is the work of an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d042f9cd802092d04c2abfdf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are no "good" examples. You can't define selta'i wi= thout first defining both se and tatpi.

O= n Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> What? How is "to= -sit-on-thing" encoded in the morphology of "stuzi"
> any more than in the morphology of "chair"?


"chair" is a bad example because it is a root

but defining a selta'i as being the x2 of ta'i (or tatpi) would be<= br> tautologic, hence, "pretty silly".

On the contrary, speaking about the main facts we know about selta'i, for instance, saying they induce headaches, would be clever, but this
is the work of an encyclopedia, not a dictionary.

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