Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:48875) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgIJ3-0003gm-Oz; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:39 -0700 Received: by qcsq5 with SMTP id q5sf4519353qcs.16 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0OlQxGUGlMvCKumj0IUPJ04JUCuFnN2Nggdb6Ux9BJE=; b=O6z7fzVtyaCR01QifXgIO/lrSGbGpu6k1/WFx5V3aTIrYhbvSbrPon4LhOuRlISJcC lmH3hQpLI+iVRluDnAnlsDGH2iThZakbfNXR6szREmrn6WQ5p/MrYsWVgM3sHW9PL9Wk 38kVM/z1TwTsVdWTybnh80kwSdUOaNC4KS+xU= Received: by 10.224.192.5 with SMTP id do5mr92812qab.12.1339950383336; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.0.200 with SMTP id 8ls4828601qac.1.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.215.194 with SMTP id hf2mr7075921qab.0.1339950382041; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.215.194 with SMTP id hf2mr7075920qab.0.1339950382031; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from li60-119.members.linode.com (linode.feoh.org. [97.107.130.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fp29si7155366qcb.3.2012.06.17.09.26.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=97.107.130.119; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by li60-119.members.linode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SgIIv-0001XV-IZ for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:26:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: [lojban] Snark hunting (was Re: Lojban Wiktionary closure proposal.) From: Kevin Reid In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:26:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:10, Escape Landsome wrote: > but is there a way I can create a lojban word that means "the hunting > of a snark" >=20 > without precising if it is "the fact I hunt a snark", or the fact a > snark hunts me ? (For the rest of this message, assume we have previously defined {broda} to= be "x1 is a snark", as with {cei}.) A selbri for "x1 is the event of hunting involving a snark" is: nu broda kalte We can choose to smash that into a lujvo as: nunrodykalte It would, however, be poor form to define such a lujvo without being more s= pecific about the role of the snark, and including specific x2 and x3 place= s describing the event in more detail. There is nothing wrong with using "nu broda kalte" to be vague; there is no= thing wrong with having a *selbri for something* rather than a *word for so= mething*, until you really have to say it a lot. And if your concept is fre= quent in your document, you can say .i nu broda kalte kei cei brode and now you can use {brode} for "the hunting of a snark" all you like for t= he rest of your text. --=20 Kevin Reid --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.