Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:48537) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgJYD-0004U0-Rt; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:20 -0700 Received: by qauh8 with SMTP id h8sf1326028qau.1 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uySj2i1/9+oej4Ctd+OrM9Qw2fSKhEuMs1Xs6RzaEbk=; b=ybpcuOhOSjLG1EaefhVZf3qDSjG1/gZnpPgHYcsE2ueZyhJ/jZ12uVCeafIq97b3d5 ZUVv/r3dh2zr6ag1VTUs5gjNXCN7iNJ/uSTl7Kk8NKygAvnShMwCQZqKSVHvr8HQEw9d z09fKq5UMTTWV/4HZC7IE4VraTNRUBSrHreR4= Received: by 10.68.232.230 with SMTP id tr6mr815484pbc.16.1339955167192; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.233.198 with SMTP id ty6ls10804899pbc.2.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr12995288pbc.4.1339955166316; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr12995286pbc.4.1339955166305; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ph6si399564pbc.2.2012.06.17.10.46.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgJY5-0004Tw-4s for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:46:05 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Wiktionary closure proposal. Message-ID: <20120617174604.GP1445@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20120617165753.GO1445@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <86C602C7-BB9D-40F2-9E0D-7E925A779088@switchb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86C602C7-BB9D-40F2-9E0D-7E925A779088@switchb.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 01:43:51PM -0400, Kevin Reid wrote: > On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:57, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >=20 > > I care deeply: I want it gone, and I've always wanted it gone. > > It dilutes effort that should go into jbovlaste (or its > > successor). >=20 >=20 > A point of fact: Unless I am misinformed, or overgeneralizing from > en.wiktionary.org, it is not fully duplicative of jbovlaste. >=20 > jbovlaste stores definitions of Lojban words, written in many > languages. .wiktionary.org stores definitions of many > languages' words, written in . I didn't realize that, sorry. [snip] > Regardless of the above, I agree that jbo.wiktionary.org does not > seem like something we should fight to keep; I see it as a > "secondary" resource to Lojbanists whereas I think we have a > shortage of "primary" resources =97 texts written in Lojban and > other non-meta usage of Lojban. Agreed. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li= 'u --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.