Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:41886) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SgMFC-0005fY-5K; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:55 -0700 Received: by qauh8 with SMTP id h8sf1443069qau.1 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=SarStnlsZ2xGQg0C4uQaWpepOmshu6wGsHRzihRJzQ4=; b=t3+c5jBDGLuLOe8DkNenGeBZLaEUIjmp9XT47RyIrDPNj3yXCnSwSwptlLaszLK+Dp DvVVUcoUPmDoc/skoO7dww0G6eUFw/5B0qjLNyv/b6SwkRxg9oR4kpq1GC+sgptaxgGb gs1KjHJSUSIK6koNNzO7ZkuRol8Ua7BNL16gk= Received: by 10.236.191.197 with SMTP id g45mr426599yhn.7.1339965519718; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.81.101 with SMTP id l65ls5139995yhe.5.gmail; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.161.233 with SMTP id w69mr23101485yhk.7.1339965517523; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.161.233 with SMTP id w69mr23101479yhk.7.1339965517103; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w40si4574862anp.3.2012.06.17.13.38.36; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3912AF92 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:38:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban Wiktionary closure proposal. Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:38:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20120617165753.GO1445@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <86C602C7-BB9D-40F2-9E0D-7E925A779088@switchb.org> In-Reply-To: <86C602C7-BB9D-40F2-9E0D-7E925A779088@switchb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206171638.34179.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday 17 June 2012 13:43:51 Kevin Reid wrote: > On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:57, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I care deeply: I want it gone, and I've always wanted it gone. It > > dilutes effort that should go into jbovlaste (or its successor). > > A point of fact: Unless I am misinformed, or overgeneralizing from > en.wiktionary.org, it is not fully duplicative of jbovlaste. > > jbovlaste stores definitions of Lojban words, written in many languages. > .wiktionary.org stores definitions of many languages' words, writte= n > in . > > That is, jbo.wiktionary.org stores *definitions written in Lojban*, which > is not the same thing as *definitions of Lojban words* except when those > definitions are written in Lojban. en.wiktionary.org is a resource for > English speakers to look up words, regardless of source language; > jbo.wiktionary.org would be a resource for Lojban speakers to look up > words. Also, Wiktionary contains definitions of phrases, such as "lo xamgu ko li'i= ",=20 symbols, and punctuation marks. Entries of verbs in inflected languages hav= e=20 conjugation tables (maybe not in the Lojban Wiktionary but in others). If y= ou=20 look up "i" in the Lojban Wiktionary, you'll see an example of the differen= ce=20 of usage between "i" in Tok Pisin and "cu" in Lojban. I say, keep it. Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.