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To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" In-Reply-To: <1340043523.14478.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="28592011-229313292-1340045495=:92664" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --28592011-229313292-1340045495=:92664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, maybe, that Lojban sucks because it didn't (despite warnings). ________________________________ From: John E Clifford To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" =20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communic= ation ? =20 Presumably the oft-repeated one to take noisy signals into account in LoCCa= n 3 so that very different concepts don't have readily confused words (a pr= oblem across most cmavo categories, at least). ________________________________ From: la .lindar. To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:28 PM Subject: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communicatio= n ? =20 So, is not that something that is annoying ?=20 > No. It is quite annoying. What is your point, though?=A0 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/KIe4XBEjVE8J. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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Or, maybe,= that Lojban sucks because it didn't (despite warnings).
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From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" <lojban@goog= legroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:18 PM
S= ubject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy i= n communication ?

Presumably the oft-repeated one to take noisy signals into account i= n LoCCan 3 so that very different concepts don't have readily confused word= s (a problem across most cmavo categories, at least).
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From:<= /b> la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:28 PM
= Subject: [lojban] Re: Are Natl= ang the best case for entropy in communication ?

So, is not that something that is annoying ?

No.
It is quite annoying.

What is your point, though? 
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