Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:42204) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sglit-00020U-Hn; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:09 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf6874487pbb.16 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=H5nnpc5pXaPMteG4yGRhwy3DT0rBwaPmQZb7iuEuXak=; b=OLSue1uxJ+xp9KdLui8wYGrb3xLkqZy21vayR6Qa7rQQsUYiyT/rnlb7MlYSl8zTAR 6yMRDxPvpB8fN8mTts6UfpPGaDfn75n04Rsgh0oT2IpAmAbJgyJ+1pJfB/BhkyVpqRtt XQgPpfgkzKAU2Tazqz4fAG1IYfARQIS9OOOqU= Received: by 10.52.70.97 with SMTP id l1mr1020813vdu.15.1340063461131; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.230.193 with SMTP id jn1ls825097vcb.8.gmail; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.28.8 with SMTP id x8mr1041567vdg.0.1340063459896; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: djandus To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <707a448f-5c51-4dd0-8a59-b2a9ff3e3b97@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban] zo kibypapri MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jandew@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jandew@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jandew@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_149_333562.1340063459343" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_149_333562.1340063459343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .i mi la xorxes tugni lo du'u zo kibypapri na malgli .i ku'i mi la tsani cu tugni lo du'u lo smuni cu cumki nitcu lo nu rapli finti .i pe'i zo kibypapri .onai.ei zo mutpapri zasti .i mi nelci zo kibypapri .i xu du lo se kibypapri lo se mutpapri .i ji'a pe'i zo samci'ejudri joi zo mutpapri joi zo kibybroda cu kalsa lo ka rapli In English, to get my thoughts down quickly as my battery dies: Don't we have enough "web site" words already? Do we *have* a web domain word? Are there nuances between the three words I've found that make them somehow important? ({se samci'ejudri} seems useful for actually having a URL, but that brings up the usefulness of {judrysni}) All in all, I dislike how there's a few mane things: URL, website, domain And there's at least 5-10 words related to them, and they all have extremely varying roots. How unofficial is kibro, and can we just make a few very good words off of it? We already have a good few, but what is there for web domain? Section of a web site could be useful but is easily derived from fendi/terfendi given a good word for domain. And I still really dislike the many-words-for-website issue, of which only one has URL as a place and two *seem* equal while having different enough definitions to make me wonder. Why can't *one* of them (preferably the one with the {kibro} root) have many places, including web page, URL, and domain And in reading over all of this, I suddenly realize that part of my confusion lies in "site" being used in the definitions for what I would call "domain" as well as there being two ways of referring to any given internet thing -- the URL and the name associated with it. Perhaps the more experienced lojbanists could tell me how they've been dealing with the confusion -- I've only just recently started trying to talk about the Internet in Lojban, and it's been a struggle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/35oEmxvGaqoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_149_333562.1340063459343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i mi la xorxes tugni lo du'u zo kibypapri na malgli
.i ku'i mi la tsan= i cu tugni lo du'u lo smuni cu cumki nitcu lo nu rapli finti

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.i pe'i zo kibypapri .onai.ei zo mutpapri zasti .i mi nelci zo k= ibypapri .i xu du lo se kibypapri lo se mutpapri
.i ji'a pe'i zo = samci'ejudri joi zo mutpapri joi zo kibybroda cu kalsa lo ka rapli

In English, to get my thoughts down quickly as my battery = dies:
Don't we have enough "web site" words already? Do we hav= e a web domain word? Are there nuances between the three words I'v= e found that make them somehow important? ({se samci'ejudri} seems useful f= or actually having a URL, but that brings up the usefulness of {judrysni})<= /div>

All in all, I dislike how there's a fe= w mane things: URL, website, domain
And there's at least 5-10 words related to them, and they a= ll have extremely varying roots. How unofficial is kibro, and can we just m= ake a few very good words off of it? We already have a good few, but what i= s there for web domain? Section of a web site could be useful but is easily= derived from fendi/terfendi given a good word for domain.
And I = still really dislike the many-words-for-website issue, of which only one ha= s URL as a place and two seem equal while having different enou= gh definitions to make me wonder. Why can't one of them (prefer= ably the one with the {kibro} root) have many places, including web page, U= RL, and domain

And in reading over all of this, I = suddenly realize that part of my confusion lies in "site" being used in the= definitions for what I would call "domain" as well as there being two ways= of referring to any given internet thing -- the URL and the name associate= d with it. Perhaps the more experienced lojbanists could tell me how they'v= e been dealing with the confusion -- I've only just recently started trying= to talk about the Internet in Lojban, and it's been a struggle.

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