Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:53724) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SguUW-0005id-5m; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:13:00 -0700 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5sf4610594lbo.16 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0qrnuV84phv6EabXCUIkRquJzZlIRaTCfnceP9aniGM=; b=6HuBPA0Q/Xo330pKeH99sxpuVmqhGyR5CPBQGN2iqxmegW0GKXNrX+SqMLPwpASKh0 rfhzRqWVZ7533p4JjayFAVzeFaNV12LpQBBgHciorQkADfoqY1m89dZxMAu3BOxnAZAD +LqKkPyloH5ffuqYR/bCgm1rFT/n3NnYgbUQI= Received: by 10.204.145.68 with SMTP id c4mr884724bkv.27.1340097164262; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.145 with SMTP id t17ls4226006bks.8.gmail; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr2250366bkw.0.1340097163358; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr2250365bkw.0.1340097163341; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hy18si16589324bkc.2.2012.06.19.02.12.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.169; Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n8so6590273lbj.0 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.99.71 with SMTP id eo7mr8060503lbb.84.1340097163090; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1340043523.14478.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1340045495.92664.YahooMailNeo@web184415.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:12:43 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communication ? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04016a235edb9704c2cfaf7f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04016a235edb9704c2cfaf7f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Except that is not the case. > > Which of the following cases of listener mishearing would you consider to > be of greater consequence? > > "I have two sheep because I'm tired." > > {lonu lo citri cu na morji piso'uroi cu gasnu lonu lo citri cu rapli} > Keep in mind both of these examples differ from intention by exactly one phoneme. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d04016a235edb9704c2cfaf7f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:10 AM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Except that is not the case.

Which o= f the following cases of listener mishearing would you consider to be of gr= eater consequence?

"I have two sheep because I'm tired."

{lonu lo cit= ri cu na morji piso'uroi cu gasnu lonu lo citri cu rapli}

Keep in mind both of these examples = differ from intention by exactly one phoneme.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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