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Well, as a suggestion against the distant day that Lojban might be used in =
a noisier channel than print and small group hyper focused conversation, so=
meone might think a bit about what redundancy devices (if any) Lojban has f=
or potentially confusing slots.  Since this day is unlikely to occur, this =
is merely a theoretical exercise, but at least we could say we have thought=
 of the matter the next time issue comes up (less often than once every fiv=
e years, I think, though no one seems to have been moved to action by the l=
ast couple of rounds either).

Sent from my iPad

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> On Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:22:16 UTC-7, Escape Landsome wrote:
> > So?=20
> > What's your point?=20
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> This comes as a direct consequence of my question, don't you see it ?=20
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> This makes us wonder if words should not be created in some way that=20
> allows more entropy.=20
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> Maybe I'm not being super to-the-point here, so let me be even more rude =
and blunt:
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> Stop being an asshole. We all know that Lojban has problems. You're harpi=
ng on this like you expect everybody to drop everything and say, "OH FUCK! =
Well, I guess you're right. God damn, now we have to start over...". I'm as=
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everybody to give up on Lojban and start from scratch keeping your point in=
 mind. If that isn't your point, then what the fuck are you getting at; wha=
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Well, as a suggestion against the dist=
ant day that Lojban might be used in a noisier channel than print and small=
 group hyper focused conversation, someone might think a bit about what red=
undancy devices (if any) Lojban has for potentially confusing slots. &nbsp;=
Since this day is unlikely to occur, this is merely a theoretical exercise,=
 but at least we could say we have thought of the matter the next time issu=
e comes up (less often than once every five years, I think, though no one s=
eems to have been moved to action by the last couple of rounds either).<br>=
<br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jun 20, 2012, at 12:12 PM, "la .lind=
ar." &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmail.com">lindarthebard@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><br>=
<br>On Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:22:16 UTC-7, Escape Landsome  wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; So?
<br>&gt; What's your point?
<br>
<br>
<br>This comes as a direct consequence of my question, don't you see it ?
<br>
<br>This makes us wonder if words should not be created in some way that
<br>allows more entropy.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Maybe I'm not being super to-the-point=
 here, so let me be even more rude and blunt:</div><div><br></div><div>Stop=
 being an asshole. We all know that Lojban has problems. You're harping on =
this like you expect everybody to drop everything and say, "OH FUCK! Well, =
I guess you're right. God damn, now we have to start over...". I'm asking y=
ou what your point is because I can only extrapolate that you expect everyb=
ody to give up on Lojban and start from scratch keeping your point in mind.=
 If that isn't your point, then what the fuck are you getting at; what do y=
ou expect us to do with this information? If it is your point, then we all =
get it (and knew that thousands of years ago) and you can stop bleeding the=
 wound.</div>

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