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> If this doesn't work, then the problem isn't the language but either
> the speaker's own vowel pronunciation or the surrounding noise itself.
> Chances are, in such an overwhelmingly noisy environment, even your
> "q" would be misheard as a different consonant: "aqa" as "aka", "iqi"
> as "iji", etc.

I am misunderstood.  "q" is an hypothetical new consonant.  It has
nothing to do with guttural q=C3=A2f, or any guttural, hence any "k" or
"kh" or "q".   It is just a void symbol like "x" in algebra.

> A simpler solution:
>
> : <- [=CB=90]
>
> a:
> e:
> i:
> o:
> u:
> so'a:
> so'e:
> so'i:
> so'o:
> so'u:
> ...

This does not work, nor does "VqV" either.

Why ?  Because, suppose somebody mispronounces the "a" and "e" vowels.
 This would indeed be a source of noise.   What then ?   She will say
"=C3=A6" instead of both "a" and "e".

But then, saying "=C3=A6q=C3=A6" or "=C3=A6:" instead of "=C3=A6" does not =
help.

Thus, another kind of solution is needed !

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