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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:11:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <59abbc57-3da2-4e58-a61d-f1d08bc78329@googlegroups.com> <4C5DB69B-9635-421D-87CB-A18058D2B487@lojban.org.uk> Message-Id: <9160B872-20C0-409D-8535-21811D5A2EB6@lojban.org.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:IM4rxhjS8ABRSssZcGC8HSySLcIbQOZF84pSCteKRK5 srxZepJDsVRyTXDQa2XQd8oMq18/jlAW2NFdXl0Lqx1XKDrf0X UXXF7ZP853p8pbQ6f4YW4IX5YkRGVjJMxqj2zOOhWFyswqtubU Am0G86zOpJ1zQBs3f58H7Y8eNfRdT6onvIReb4SVnkQ+VgLmK0 Gs7JDG76J6euXVCOEwObj882it/aInBnnUGdH1MsVvv1BaRVor Jhp/xUJ5YdB5VOh57tyxX3U64Bt1lW9IGT6lQurUp92+pPr/Pg lZEK7BkUT7ipBzqeLVOOR0BDXCP3vBEMa3KvXUS/xgSc9CahAk Xc1dviIMtHdK33ZEFNQrLLPTJ/sSwX5gvy8t90isUkmrAYB29X fum5sjpBF8ZYA== X-Original-Sender: kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.187 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk) smtp.mail=kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_19973232-9461-4F88-B76B-4198CA26D253" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail=_19973232-9461-4F88-B76B-4198CA26D253 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 24 Jun 2012, at 00:04, kozmikreis wrote: > On 23 Jun 2012, at 23:43, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> As I've already said: >>=20 >> If you think the Lojban Wiktionary should not be deleted, you need to sa= y so /on the page I linked/. Nothing said on this thread reaches the people= that have a say in the matter. >=20 > The page you've linked to gives reasons to close the project, some are st= ated as if there are some criteria, most likely derived from http://meta.wi= kimedia.org/wiki/Closing_projects_policy , that could be met to keep it. I= doubt random people adding "ohai, i luvs ur pages, plz keepz xxx" would su= ffice ;-) >=20 > As I've already said: >=20 > I don't understand what criteria needs to be met. >=20 > kozmikreis Looks like it's not that bad if it's closed, closing does not mean deleting= - from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closing_projects_policy#Definition_o= f_actions : "Closing a wiki means locking its database so that it cannot be= edited by anyone except stewards, but all pages are still visible to publi= c." kozmikreis --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On 24 Jun 2012, = at 00:04, kozmikreis wrote:

On 23 Jun 20= 12, at 23:43, Jonathan Jones wrote:

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As I've already said:

If you think the Lojban Wiktion= ary should not be deleted, you need to=20 say so /on the page I linked/. Nothing said on this thread reaches the=20 people that have a say in the matter.

The page you've linked to gives reasons to close the project, some ar= e stated as if there are some criteria, most likely derived from http://meta.w= ikimedia.org/wiki/Closing_projects_policy , that could be met= to keep it.  I doubt random people adding "ohai, i luvs ur pages, plz= keepz xxx" would suffice ;-)

As I've already said= :

I don't understand what criteria needs to be met= .

kozmikreis

Looks like it's not that bad if it's closed, closing does not mean deleti= ng - from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closing_project= s_policy#Definition_of_actions : "Closing a wiki means locking its= database so that it cannot be edited by anyone except stewards, but all pa= ges are still visible to public."

kozmikreis
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