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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk>wrote:

> On 23 Jun 2012, at 23:43, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:46 AM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk>wrote:
>
>> On 21 Jun 2012, at 10:30, osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> n Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:32:38 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
>>>
>>> Google alerts recently informed me of this:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Lojban_Wiktionary
>>>
>>> Do we care?
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>
>>
>> I think we should keep it. Lojban already suffers from obscurity. We need
>> all the visibility we can muster.
>>
>>
>> I wholeheartedly agree.  It's a good enough resource for beginners and it
>> brings visibility and credence.  Is there any harm in keeping it, and if
>> not how do we go about making an actionable objection to its loss beyond
>> what's otherwise merely an academic discussion on a mailing list?  I don't
>> understand what criteria needs to be met.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> kozmikreis
>>
>
> As I've already said:
>
> If you think the Lojban Wiktionary should not be deleted, you need to say
> so /on the page I linked/. Nothing said on this thread reaches the people
> that have a say in the matter.
>
>
> The page you've linked to gives reasons to close the project
>


No, the page I've linked to is /the proposal/, with votes for or against
and the reasons for those votes listed below.

-- 
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, kozmikreis <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk" target=3D"_bl=
ank">kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"im"><div><div>On 23 Jun 2=
012, at 23:43, Jonathan Jones wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:46 AM, kozmikreis <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;=
margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color=
:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div>On 21 Jun 2012, at 10:30=
, <a href=3D"mailto:osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">o=
siris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com</a> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite">

n Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:32:38 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote:<blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">Google alerts recently informed me of this:=A0</blockqu=
ote>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;=
margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color=
:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><a href=3D"=
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Lo=
jban_Wiktionary" target=3D"_blank">http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals=
_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Lojban_Wiktionary</a><br>


<br>Do we care?<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><=
br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#=
39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br></blockquote=
>

<div><br></div><div>I think we should keep it. Lojban already suffers from =
obscurity. We need all the visibility we can muster.=A0</div></blockquote><=
br></div></div><div>I wholeheartedly agree. =A0It&#39;s a good enough resou=
rce for beginners and it brings visibility and credence. =A0Is there any ha=
rm in keeping it, and if not how do we go about making an actionable object=
ion to its loss beyond what&#39;s otherwise merely an academic discussion o=
n a mailing list? =A0I don&#39;t understand what criteria needs to be met.<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>kozmikreis</div></div>=
</blockquote><div><br>As I&#39;ve already said:<br><br>If you think the Loj=
ban Wiktionary should not be deleted, you need to=20
say so /on the page I linked/. Nothing said on this thread reaches the=20
people that have a say in the matter.<br></div></div></blockquote><br></div=
></div><div>The page you&#39;ve linked to gives reasons to close the projec=
t</div></div></blockquote><div><br><br clear=3D"all">No, the page I&#39;ve =
linked to is /the proposal/, with votes for or against and the reasons for =
those votes listed below.<br>
</div></div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko c=
mima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the =
Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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