Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:50316) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sileg-0006zm-Jd; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:11:10 -0700 Received: by faaa5 with SMTP id a5sf2294737faa.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=aFHGq768fEXB/VSOWub1udZNdbgBAVdtsXmj87UMRk0=; b=I82KRQIVCsKPnk1b+JoG4UuwAp+9UitgcbVwqnFYWPKINWtyKiK5cG0AXJ8Wyvnzb0 cfBO+zn5BkR9rdLzA4AXyNYwyT7wg59iBYJRtFqurulbSqZcsTSO4b0Aah4RBdTgTfDp XEla0fz8ydJ03uSdpT/h6pjtSBmQVjDdbHyt0= Received: by 10.204.153.205 with SMTP id l13mr400403bkw.15.1340539854871; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.208 with SMTP id p16ls2966118bks.7.gmail; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr873783bkt.4.1340539853926; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr873782bkt.4.1340539853900; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hy18si10447318bkc.2.2012.06.24.05.10.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.175; Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so5645375lbo.20 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr8331491lab.42.1340539853474; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <74243394-F7AA-46CD-B731-21E95827CE6B@yahoo.com> <5fbb3fd1-8c00-42a4-9dac-e9889e69757f@googlegroups.com> <000eea56-0a1e-4f54-8862-3cc817d539e1@googlegroups.com> <9cb9e4c0-f3fa-4183-8582-f14de670148c@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:10:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communication ? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234589c60aed04c336c1b3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f234589c60aed04c336c1b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Escape Landsome wrote: > That is to say, this noise volume is much less in the case of a whole > confusible paradigme (as so'V is) than in any natlang case you would > give, or artifically create, for a paradigm is something that shares > both naturalness and commonness. > You keep saying that, yet still you provide nothing to support your claim. No evidence of any kind. It's beginning to sound like a mindless chant. As those in the scientific community are quite fond of saying, PROVE IT. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8f234589c60aed04c336c1b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Escape Landsome= <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:
That is to say, this noise volume is much less in the case of a whole
confusible paradigme (as so'V is) than in any natlang case you would give, or artifically create, for a paradigm is something that shares
both naturalness and commonness.

You keep saying = that, yet still you provide nothing to support your claim. No evidence of a= ny kind. It's beginning to sound like a mindless chant.

As those= in the scientific community are quite fond of saying, PROVE IT.

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