Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:41482) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SimVQ-0007PR-Hp; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:36 -0700 Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56sf3717475yhq.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=4QgXU+WPTh4mJ69rVEezjlqsyVCN3iat4Nm4HHdplUI=; b=ckj/FSOYUqXx9TFSYu9AmMfMGI4Z++gZwc2u7anw7UzY7U5ReFacRZJkLYZD23Clsp yvAv8h9F4vMQHuE+2dMsq3+Pp0bE036i7D1tRO2DxXbYtLXn62DjRPvt74UYmv8Wa1DZ 6ZIcNwEzv35d4j+ScW3SOYgP1kSujpXptuP6c= Received: by 10.236.76.197 with SMTP id b45mr908470yhe.20.1340543126178; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.42.69 with SMTP id i45ls4587060yhb.3.gmail; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.40 with SMTP id f28mr16173102yhn.2.1340543125046; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.191.40 with SMTP id f28mr16173100yhn.2.1340543125037; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v25si14946838yhm.0.2012.06.24.06.05.24; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E452ABA0 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {fa'a} and expressing "towards" in Lojban. Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:05:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <5b45b636-9709-4409-a900-f7442b7e6603@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206240905.21524.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday 24 June 2012 06:57:18 gleki wrote: > And there is the same problem with {to'o} which looks like the opposite of > {fa'a}. > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Directional+Spatial gives the > example > ki'u ma lo do gerku cu bajra to'o do"Why does your dog run away from you?" > Why not teka'a?And what is the relation between {to'o} and {tefa'a}? "lo gerku cu bajra to'o do' means that the dog is away from you where he runs. To indicate that he runs away from you, say "mo'i to'o". "teka'a" is also correct, but it's a proper preposition, adding a place, not a tense marker. "fa'a", being a tense marker, can't take "te". Pierre -- loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.