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Am 24.06.2012 15:05, schrieb Pierre Abbat:
> hy not teka'a?And what is the relation between {to'o} and {tefa'a}?
>
> "lo gerku cu bajra to'o do' means that the dog is away from you where he runs.
> To indicate that he runs away from you, say "mo'i to'o".

{to'o do} says that the event is oriented away from {do}. Since bajra 
contains motion already, you don't need {mo'i}, and in fact, it would 
mean something else entirely with {mo'i}: "The [event of the] dog 
running is moving away from you", which might mean that the dog is 
running in whatever direction while being on a train that is moving away 
from you.

{lo gerku cu bajra to'o do} is therefore the correct way to say it.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

-- 
.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata



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