Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:35197) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sin46-00089E-Hp; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:30 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf3697927ggk.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Nm/ws2N1kAyQXlB49ke8oZIs4hrJvokMYK7BnDvg9Jg=; b=TcaIvf7z209e8u86BKZwMpK2EPA+HNvToyYgVpTbaYS2cIrjc8DF6d2BhjNO8P77VA nNPDEIPxVApQEBoqqP7MLjHG+ioYOmeYdru9E4uJz2BuSiQdA1ZOHf99EPY5Q8DyDoua CghsduYnw+KGUi7vstCyG8Zj9NVULRQsgCa84= Received: by 10.50.187.198 with SMTP id fu6mr888228igc.1.1340545276205; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.52.41 with SMTP id f41ls2899941ibg.3.gmail; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.149.133 with SMTP id ua5mr6002547igb.2.1340545275204; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.149.133 with SMTP id ua5mr6002543igb.2.1340545275191; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id po2si1630186igb.2.2012.06.24.06.41.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.172; Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so5753900obb.31 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.237.72 with SMTP id va8mr5834090igc.17.1340545274796; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.15.74 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:41:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <74243394-F7AA-46CD-B731-21E95827CE6B@yahoo.com> <5fbb3fd1-8c00-42a4-9dac-e9889e69757f@googlegroups.com> <000eea56-0a1e-4f54-8862-3cc817d539e1@googlegroups.com> <9cb9e4c0-f3fa-4183-8582-f14de670148c@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:41:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communication ? From: Escape Landsome To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Considering that nobody has metrics for Lojban or for the general case of paradigms in totally any language, you won't have more than qualitative argument based on mathematical properties of complexity measures and generic minorations/majorations of allowed values. Thus, the genetic argument is roughly the one given here ---> http://bluemoon.lescigales.org/Kholok/CollectiveDesambiguation.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.