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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:

> > EVIDENCE is date gathered from experiments designed to support or refute
> a
> > hypothesis.
>
> * In hard science like Mathematics or Physics, yes
>

No, in *ALL* science. If there is no experimentation, it *ISN'T* science.

While it is true that the so-called "soft" sciences such a psychology,
sociology, et al., are usually incapable of coming to concrete conclusions,
they still use *experiments* to accrue *evidence* of their *hypotheses*.

Your mathematical formulae have no basis in any kind of experimenting, and
thusly can not be given any higher regard than numbers which are *completely
made up*. You must have experiments to back up your claim, for without
them, that's all you have; a *claim*.

Furthermore, even after repeatedly being requested to do so, you have
*yet*to provide a reason for
*why you've brought this up in the first place*.

I am not a "believer". I hold my opinion for the simple reason that there
is no evidence to the contrary.

-- 
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Escape =
Landsome <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:escaaape@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">escaaape@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">&gt; EVIDENCE is date gathered from experiments designed =
to support or refute a<br>
&gt; hypothesis.<br>
<br>
</div>* In hard science like Mathematics or Physics, yes<br clear=3D"all"><=
/blockquote><div><br>No, in <i><u><b>ALL</b></u></i> science. If there is n=
o experimentation, it <i><u><b>ISN&#39;T</b></u></i> science.<br><br>While =
it is true that the so-called &quot;soft&quot; sciences such a psychology, =
sociology, et al., are usually incapable of coming to concrete conclusions,=
 they still use <i>experiments</i> to accrue <i>evidence</i> of their <i>hy=
potheses</i>.<br>
<br>Your mathematical formulae have no basis in any kind of experimenting, =
and thusly can not be given any higher regard than numbers which are <i>com=
pletely made up</i>. You must have experiments to back up your claim, for w=
ithout them, that&#39;s all you have; a <i>claim</i>.<br>
<br>Furthermore, even after repeatedly being requested to do so, you have <=
i>yet</i> to provide a reason for <i>why you&#39;ve brought this up in the =
first place</i>.<br><br>I am not a &quot;believer&quot;. I hold my opinion =
for the simple reason that there is no evidence to the contrary. <br>
</div></div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko c=
mima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the =
Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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