Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:60373) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SirSh-0001wV-Gy; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:23:11 -0700 Received: by bkcik5 with SMTP id ik5sf2442907bkc.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rpc9RSWmUzPBGx5byJpnPc1RUiIxWob3tYCmhqtio/w=; b=sUU0KiM6Et8p78BzxffXdFzU0rZ1YDdV37AuXug263YvtSRUk11MHyiKsSS7CJkMxu 21f+HhS/fazpSvNgMOikd9yFHgm7wrLGRGgbZb1l0MbfDpfknd6O2yxw2M+/WEZq1Rc8 4zt6vu75S7iC2Z3NQmFyQG72eeulTlQyiHOW0= Received: by 10.204.155.143 with SMTP id s15mr420368bkw.3.1340562175673; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.129.148 with SMTP id hi20ls3104383bkc.0.gmail; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr955270bkt.4.1340562174453; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr955269bkt.4.1340562174437; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iv15si11096204bkc.0.2012.06.24.11.22.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.172; Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so7421245lbb.17 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.45.4 with SMTP id i4mr4634553lbm.79.1340562173907; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.193 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:22:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120624180810.GU392@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <5b45b636-9709-4409-a900-f7442b7e6603@googlegroups.com> <20120624180810.GU392@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:22:53 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {fa'a} and expressing "towards" in Lojban. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I agree, and to clarify, {mi bajra fa'a lo snanu} is perfectly valid > if you're facing north; it doesn't say anything about the facing *of > the speaker*, which is how people have been using it, or about the > facing of any particular object in the bridi. Right. > I also think {mi bajra fa'a mo'i lo snanu} makes a lot more sense > for "I run south", by the way. To me that means that the running takes place on a train heading south, or something like that. I don't think "mo'i" should be used just to indicate that one of the arguments of the bridi is in movement. I don't see much use for "mo'i" really. > So, how *do* we walk about the facing of objects in a bridi? Not sure what you mean. If you mean "this faces that" ("this is oriented towards that", "this is directed towards that") then "ti se farna ta". mu'o mi=E9 xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.