Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:33854) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SjPFl-0004TY-QV; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:28:03 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf5128630obb.16 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ycu5jWKxDkpBswUJbVf+cYH+M0O8IPWs+2E0/zwk6Go=; b=6xQp6+u49HwboRxsudCnu5xo+zLLZJWLyHp1LFsAxxcx8JUmSSus45I876wIYIjNlb CJy2UrzH+yPqKaFxdpzX2h+52O0UqsNJvWwvvJwWAhsdiGMgGj4Il20pwz1ZD6kigxYM 0A1K6qnPhyItiwW9y1CeLLq0qkIpVtjfHm4m4= Received: by 10.236.37.129 with SMTP id y1mr455530yha.9.1340692071562; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.42.69 with SMTP id i45ls6789373yhb.3.gmail; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.133.37 with SMTP id k37mr6285581ann.15.1340692070707; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.133.37 with SMTP id k37mr6285580ann.15.1340692070693; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f51.google.com (mail-yw0-f51.google.com [209.85.213.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q35si23087286yhe.6.2012.06.25.23.27.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.51; Received: by yhnn12 with SMTP id n12so3616279yhn.38 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.42.165 with SMTP id p5mr10206687igl.68.1340692070254; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id if4sm1286463igc.10.2012.06.25.23.27.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE95664.7000703@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:27:48 -0500 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Gismu with 100% english bias References: <208618ef-69f8-45bb-9c2c-bd6e22e2e468@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <208618ef-69f8-45bb-9c2c-bd6e22e2e468@googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On 06/25/2012 11:43 PM, hellznrg@gmail.com wrote: > Hi everyone, sorry if this question has been asked before, and if so, if > you could provide a link or two that would be great. I tried looking on > google, but not quite sure how to search for this.. > > My question is, is it possible to produce a set of gismu (root words) with > a 100% bias to english? (perhaps calling the resulting Lojban variant > "englog" or "englan" or something like that. I tried learning lojban before > but I just got put off by the foreignness of the words. Perhaps it may be > that learning the grammar first using english gismu would be much easier > than just jumping in the deep end. This may give rise to many dialects (the > chinese may want their variant of lojban having gismu 100% biased to > chinese), but perhaps this is not a bad thing? I think that applying lojban grammar to English vocabulary would be confusing. Let's try it and find out. i expect the event the event the is-grammar of the-named lojban combine the is-word of {fi} the-named english-language {kei} confuse. [suggestion] [imperative] we experiment something-about previous-sentence with-motive the event we learn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.