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Responses inline.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is not as simple as that, .arpis
>
> The reason is that in philosophy, there is the notion (which is
> signified) and the word (which signifies)
>
> To convey an idea (a notion), one forges a word
>
> But somebody else can re-use this word to make it say something
> slightly different, --- and this is regarded as a fair move
>

This is antithetical to something I believe to be fundamental to lojban,
namely a strong and active attempt to avoid polysemy.

>
> Hence, it is as if we had goods and money, goods can be exchanged with
> money, money can be changed to goods, and the fact there are two
> levels create a useful dynamics that permits people to scrutinize
> questions in a very efficient way (albeit for non-philosophers, this
> is precisely the assholish way)
>
> I wonder if this can be kept in lojban
>
> ---
>
> However, what you say makes sense, for instance Roman philosophers
> translated all greek terms into latin, --- and by doing this they
> CHANGED the philosophic viewpoint on life the Greeks had into a NEW,
> CREATED ON THE SPOT Roman viewpoint on life.
>
> Maybe such things cannot be avoided at all.
>
> Prepare to create a lojbanic philosophy, then !
>

Gladly.

>
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>
> gleki, you must be right.   Where should we post ?
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Responses inline.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at=
 9:19 AM, Escape Landsome <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:escaaape@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">escaaape@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

This is not as simple as that, .arpis<br>
<br>
The reason is that in philosophy, there is the notion (which is<br>
signified) and the word (which signifies)<br>
<br>
To convey an idea (a notion), one forges a word<br>
<br>
But somebody else can re-use this word to make it say something<br>
slightly different, --- and this is regarded as a fair move<br></blockquote=
><div><br>This is antithetical to something I believe to be fundamental to =
lojban, namely a strong and active attempt to avoid polysemy. <br></div>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Hence, it is as if we had goods and money, goods can be exchanged with<br>
money, money can be changed to goods, and the fact there are two<br>
levels create a useful dynamics that permits people to scrutinize<br>
questions in a very efficient way (albeit for non-philosophers, this<br>
is precisely the assholish way)<br>
<br>
I wonder if this can be kept in lojban<br>
<br>
---<br>
<br>
However, what you say makes sense, for instance Roman philosophers<br>
translated all greek terms into latin, --- and by doing this they<br>
CHANGED the philosophic viewpoint on life the Greeks had into a NEW,<br>
CREATED ON THE SPOT Roman viewpoint on life.<br>
<br>
Maybe such things cannot be avoided at all.<br>
<br>
Prepare to create a lojbanic philosophy, then !<br></blockquote><div><br>Gl=
adly. <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
---<br>
<br>
gleki, you must be right. =A0 Where should we post ?<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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