Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:60693) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SjqJq-000182-Bp; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:22:03 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf316991bkw.16 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YCZddRk2a8y+eEVT9yu0ZEGB36ZzxIo+dagKleVbj/s=; b=Ym9KATi294GXeWKn4AYMFIw+eISim+iuPgfOAQzXEKPajdekaQObhA4l7PAPQXf5s0 d28OGHA4gnn8P7V+PRebQyQ3c1RPrRrVjLL2iHRc/3BDJJzjjASzYS4NIDgnxk1MdX45 1RNytvi9CudQIjWmQnzdCU20CrNpeMVd3h3/c= Received: by 10.204.152.220 with SMTP id h28mr1097726bkw.26.1340796110580; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls1205696bks.1.gmail; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.144 with SMTP id hm16mr1041133bkc.5.1340796109569; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.144 with SMTP id hm16mr1041132bkc.5.1340796109440; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si361349bks.2.2012.06.27.04.21.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.178; Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id gj10so1824958lbb.23 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr19929486lab.42.1340796109242; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 05:21:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] age From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234589cec1f304c3726bcb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f234589cec1f304c3726bcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Or actually {li za'umuki'o}. My original was ~5,000, not >5,000. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I would suggest {lonu la'oi.I Ching. zasti cu nanca li ji'imuki'o}. > > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > >> I was trying to say "the 'I Ching' is a book more than 5000 years old". >> >> The first problem I encountered is {cukta}. When we say {cukta} are we >> thinking about a physical instance of a book (with its pages, >> hardcover etc) or the concept is general enough to include the >> abstract concept of "books"? >> >> Then I started thinking about "age". We have a "by standard" place for >> "young" and "old" which I think it's not to be used to express the >> age. Then we have an experimental gismu {laldo} whose gloss suggests >> it's just a word for "old" to avoid considering "old" as just the >> opposite of "young". >> >> That said I'm still uncertain on how to express something/someone age ... >> >> Suggestions? >> >> remod >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8f234589cec1f304c3726bcb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or actually {li za'umuki'o}. My original was ~5,000, not >5,000.=

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I would suggest {lonu la'oi.I Ching. zas= ti cu nanca li ji'imuki'o}.
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Remo Dentat= o <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
I was trying to say "the 'I Ching&#= 39; is a book more than 5000 years old".

The first problem I encountered is {cukta}. When we say {cukta} are we
thinking about a physical instance of a book (with its pages,
hardcover etc) or the concept is general enough to include the
abstract concept of "books"?

Then I started thinking about "age". We have a "by standard&= quot; place for
"young" and "old" which I think it's not to be used= to express the
age. Then we have an experimental gismu {laldo} whose gloss suggests
it's just a word for "old" to avoid considering "old&quo= t; as just the
opposite of "young".

That said I'm still uncertain on how to express something/someone age .= ..

Suggestions?

remod

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mu'o mi'e .aionys= .

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




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mu'o = mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi= .luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father= . :D )

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