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On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:10:18 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:
>
> I was trying to say "the 'I Ching' is a book more than 5000 years old". 
>
> The first problem I encountered is {cukta}. When we say {cukta} are we 
> thinking about a physical instance of a book (with its pages, 
> hardcover etc) or the concept is general enough to include the 
> abstract concept of "books"? 
>

I'm for perceiving cukta as an abstract concept. The definition doesn't 
mention "paper" or any other medium.
Not for papri, unfortunately.
Wikipedia pages are called ckupau which is fine for me.

>
> Then I started thinking about "age". We have a "by standard" place for 
> "young" and "old" which I think it's not to be used to express the 
> age. Then we have an experimental gismu {laldo} whose gloss suggests 
> it's just a word for "old" to avoid considering "old" as just the 
> opposite of "young". 
>
> That said I'm still uncertain on how to express something/someone age ... 
>
> Suggestions? 
>
> remod 
>

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<br><br>On Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:10:18 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:<blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">I was trying to say "the 'I Ching' is a=
 book more than 5000 years old".
<br>
<br>The first problem I encountered is {cukta}. When we say {cukta} are we
<br>thinking about a physical instance of a book (with its pages,
<br>hardcover etc) or the concept is general enough to include the
<br>abstract concept of "books"?
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm for perceiving cukta as an abstrac=
t concept. The definition doesn't mention "paper" or any other medium.</div=
><div>Not for papri, unfortunately.</div><div>Wikipedia pages are called ck=
upau which is fine for me.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;=
">
<br>Then I started thinking about "age". We have a "by standard" place for
<br>"young" and "old" which I think it's not to be used to express the
<br>age. Then we have an experimental gismu {laldo} whose gloss suggests
<br>it's just a word for "old" to avoid considering "old" as just the
<br>opposite of "young".
<br>
<br>That said I'm still uncertain on how to express something/someone age .=
..
<br>
<br>Suggestions?
<br>
<br>remod
<br></blockquote>

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