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pe'i mailing lists for discussion, one of the wikis for archival purposes;
I'd also recommend that someone edit the wiki page and then query the
mailing list for comments as a typical workflow.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:01 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 26 June 2012 13:25, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would translate "sentient being" as {lo kakne lo nu te sibdo}, and
> > possibly luvjoize it as {lo tersi'oka'e} (someone with better lujvo
> skills
> > than I can criticize) because the key point of the term is sentience,
> which
> > is the capability to think, and everything else are red herrings.
>
> "Sentience" isn't limited to the capability to think. It includes
> mechanisms for primitive senses such as pleasure and pain. As far as I
> can tell, "sentient beings" refers to whatever individuals that can
> receive physical stimuli as sensory information, which includes
> non-humans (hence its significance in animal rights movements). That
> sounds like simply {lo ganse}.
>
> OED:
> "sentient" -- able to see or feel things through the senses
>
> Other references:
>
> http://ciwf.org.uk/animal_sentience/policy_and_culture/suggested_reading/default.aspx
> http://www.d.umn.edu/~dcole/sense5.html
> http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/Xenopsychology.htm
>
> * * *
>
> So that was my example of commenting on a technical term for a Lojban
> equivalent. Will such be best pursued on Escape's wiki, or on
> Lojban.org, or on mailing lists (including jbovlaste's)?
>
>
> mu'o
>
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pe&#39;i mailing lists for discussion, one of the wikis for archival purpos=
es; I&#39;d also recommend that someone edit the wiki page and then query t=
he mailing list for comments as a typical workflow.<br><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:01 AM, tijlan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jbotijlan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jbotijlan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">On 26 June 2012 13:25, .arpis. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpgl=
over64%2Bjbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I would translate &quot;sentient being&quot; as {lo kakne lo nu te sib=
do}, and<br>
&gt; possibly luvjoize it as {lo tersi&#39;oka&#39;e} (someone with better =
lujvo skills<br>
&gt; than I can criticize) because the key point of the term is sentience, =
which<br>
&gt; is the capability to think, and everything else are red herrings.<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;Sentience&quot; isn&#39;t limited to the capability to think. I=
t includes<br>
mechanisms for primitive senses such as pleasure and pain. As far as I<br>
can tell, &quot;sentient beings&quot; refers to whatever individuals that c=
an<br>
receive physical stimuli as sensory information, which includes<br>
non-humans (hence its significance in animal rights movements). That<br>
sounds like simply {lo ganse}.<br>
<br>
OED:<br>
&quot;sentient&quot; -- able to see or feel things through the senses<br>
<br>
Other references:<br>
<a href=3D"http://ciwf.org.uk/animal_sentience/policy_and_culture/suggested=
_reading/default.aspx" target=3D"_blank">http://ciwf.org.uk/animal_sentienc=
e/policy_and_culture/suggested_reading/default.aspx</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Edcole/sense5.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.d.umn.edu/~dcole/sense5.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/Xenopsychology.htm" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/Xenopsychology.htm</a><br>
<br>
* * *<br>
<br>
So that was my example of commenting on a technical term for a Lojban<br>
equivalent. Will such be best pursued on Escape&#39;s wiki, or on<br>
Lojban.org, or on mailing lists (including jbovlaste&#39;s)?<br>
<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o<br>
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