Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:50521) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjxxw-0006iB-LC; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:56 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf931199wib.16 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:message-id:date :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ObE02sRho8+7g4azGKISVZqE4soAKMGaftILwSE6jH8=; b=0HjPDNB4+cbqlhqD1sPd+wvWs7MLR5IFw+yYreGiR5Ngu9NTlSSL6b280CwYSI3F9Q og0vQzFvYj7fM0kiMtfPxD+jgU8jF081Po0DotEm4KkDk+nqhfMQOJUCpxFdnE0IUc1X Oeo2JiNhK5hQ1dR24Ub4E6Zuds+AgpMwSc3gY= Received: by 10.216.205.225 with SMTP id j75mr586727weo.15.1340825502321; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.145.151 with SMTP id p23ls2178001wej.0.gmail; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.199 with SMTP id ek7mr723044wib.0.1340825499474; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.199 with SMTP id ek7mr723043wib.0.1340825499464; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f200.google.com (mail-we0-f200.google.com [74.125.82.200]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei10si1990433wid.0.2012.06.27.12.31.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.200 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.200; Received: by werf3 with SMTP id f3so320607wer.7 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.94.207 with SMTP id n55mr6712786eef.16.1340825499107; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:31:39 +0000 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: age From: rdentato@gmail.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52be46f94873b04c3794372 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec52be46f94873b04c3794372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Il giorno , iesk ha scritto: > Is it {le se cukta} that is more than 5,000 years old? In this specific case we don't know exactly who wrote it, most probably many people added text along the years. Scholars believe that the present form stabillized around 5000 years ago. But I see what you mean: {cukta} -> the book as physical object {selcku} -> the book as content right? So it's the {selcku} that is 5000 years old, not the {cukta}, which I bought few years ago. remod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec52be46f94873b04c3794372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Il giorno , iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> ha scritto:
> Is it {le se c= ukta} that is more than 5,000 years old?

In this specific case w= e don't know exactly who wrote it, most probably many people added text= along the years. Scholars believe that the present form stabillized around= 5000 years ago.

But I see what you mean:
{cukta} -> = the book as physical object
{selcku} -> the book as content

right?

So it's the {selcku} that is 5000 years old, = not the {cukta}, which I bought few years ago.

remod

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