Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:53550) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SkeWD-0006gh-W1; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:58:07 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf2305290eek.16 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=brI/5n1foy4wBD3MP5KZabeAd4gFQTlOhLRaHJzRnyc=; b=WmaIY8UPI2Fu3BNxmHVfBfu++XHKZfdsUBtVGXg5mdLVF3IFbhQl/31WMLW2kfQHYJ 3JRsFTvgScC/e4X7i4o/QAnbCobVU28JknOzf72iKWXsmASY4eHj2KKIAOZh2SPHX0lk NpijQEkl8lm1OieQDEIcFmUrqyrPeHquBn7vk= Received: by 10.204.152.18 with SMTP id e18mr137392bkw.16.1340989078579; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls4095623bks.1.gmail; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.145 with SMTP id v17mr368601bku.7.1340989077579; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.145 with SMTP id v17mr368600bku.7.1340989077564; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iv15si2496832bkc.0.2012.06.29.09.57.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.43; Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id y5so4031175bkt.30 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.207 with SMTP id l15mr1496644bks.100.1340989077257; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.149.201 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:57:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jacob Errington Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:57:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] The x3 of {srana} To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / coi rodo Twice now, I've had to use {sekai} in order to get a sort of "complete srana" such that "srana = x1 pertains to x2 in aspect x3". I feel like this should be a part of the place structure of srana proper. Adding a place to a gismu breaks no usage, as we all know, so there is no fear of corrupting existing Lojban. Does anyone agree? mu'o mi'e la tsani p.s. I'm not really *proposing* that we effect this change *now*. But, I'm just saying that it would be really neat, if maybe when a bigger reworking of the language comes around, that we add this place, which seems really srana to srana, if you know what I mean. I'll also be adding this to the gismu issues page. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.