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I agree. There's actually a lot of gismu that I feel are missing a place,
most of which are specifically for reasons of regularity, i.e. all the
other gismu of the same class have place structure "x1 is broda of x2 in
way x3", and this one is only "x1 is broda of x2".

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:

> coi rodo
>
> Twice now, I've had to use {sekai} in order to get a sort of "complete
> srana" such that "srana = x1 pertains to x2 in aspect x3".
> I feel like this should be a part of the place structure of srana
> proper. Adding a place to a gismu breaks no usage, as we all know, so
> there is no fear of corrupting existing Lojban.
>
> Does anyone agree?
>
> mu'o mi'e la tsani
>
> p.s. I'm not really *proposing* that we effect this change *now*. But,
> I'm just saying that it would be really neat, if maybe when a bigger
> reworking of the language comes around, that we add this place, which
> seems really srana to srana, if you know what I mean.
>
> I'll also be adding this to the gismu issues page.
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I agree. There&#39;s actually a lot of gismu that I feel are missing a plac=
e, most of which are specifically for reasons of regularity, i.e. all the o=
ther gismu of the same class have place structure &quot;x1 is broda of x2 i=
n way x3&quot;, and this one is only &quot;x1 is broda of x2&quot;.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jacob Erri=
ngton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
coi rodo<br>
<br>
Twice now, I&#39;ve had to use {sekai} in order to get a sort of &quot;comp=
lete<br>
srana&quot; such that &quot;srana =3D x1 pertains to x2 in aspect x3&quot;.=
<br>
I feel like this should be a part of the place structure of srana<br>
proper. Adding a place to a gismu breaks no usage, as we all know, so<br>
there is no fear of corrupting existing Lojban.<br>
<br>
Does anyone agree?<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani<br>
<br>
p.s. I&#39;m not really *proposing* that we effect this change *now*. But,<=
br>
I&#39;m just saying that it would be really neat, if maybe when a bigger<br=
>
reworking of the language comes around, that we add this place, which<br>
seems really srana to srana, if you know what I mean.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll also be adding this to the gismu issues page.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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