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Sometimes these are like that because "this gismu is that gismu but without
this being inherent to it". I agree in many cases, though.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a noi ge lo bebna cu cmene ke'a gi zo latros pu cmene
ke'a

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. There's actually a lot of gismu that I feel are missing a place,
> most of which are specifically for reasons of regularity, i.e. all the
> other gismu of the same class have place structure "x1 is broda of x2 in
> way x3", and this one is only "x1 is broda of x2".
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> coi rodo
>>
>> Twice now, I've had to use {sekai} in order to get a sort of "complete
>> srana" such that "srana = x1 pertains to x2 in aspect x3".
>> I feel like this should be a part of the place structure of srana
>> proper. Adding a place to a gismu breaks no usage, as we all know, so
>> there is no fear of corrupting existing Lojban.
>>
>> Does anyone agree?
>>
>> mu'o mi'e la tsani
>>
>> p.s. I'm not really *proposing* that we effect this change *now*. But,
>> I'm just saying that it would be really neat, if maybe when a bigger
>> reworking of the language comes around, that we add this place, which
>> seems really srana to srana, if you know what I mean.
>>
>> I'll also be adding this to the gismu issues page.
>>
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Sometimes these are like that because &quot;this gismu is that gismu but wi=
thout this being inherent to it&quot;. I agree in many cases, though.<br><b=
r>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a noi ge lo bebna cu cmene ke&#39;a gi zo =
latros pu cmene ke&#39;a<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Jonathan Jo=
nes <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">
I agree. There&#39;s actually a lot of gismu that I feel are missing a plac=
e, most of which are specifically for reasons of regularity, i.e. all the o=
ther gismu of the same class have place structure &quot;x1 is broda of x2 i=
n way x3&quot;, and this one is only &quot;x1 is broda of x2&quot;.<div cla=
ss=3D"HOEnZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Jacob Erri=
ngton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">

coi rodo<br>
<br>
Twice now, I&#39;ve had to use {sekai} in order to get a sort of &quot;comp=
lete<br>
srana&quot; such that &quot;srana =3D x1 pertains to x2 in aspect x3&quot;.=
<br>
I feel like this should be a part of the place structure of srana<br>
proper. Adding a place to a gismu breaks no usage, as we all know, so<br>
there is no fear of corrupting existing Lojban.<br>
<br>
Does anyone agree?<br>
<br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani<br>
<br>
p.s. I&#39;m not really *proposing* that we effect this change *now*. But,<=
br>
I&#39;m just saying that it would be really neat, if maybe when a bigger<br=
>
reworking of the language comes around, that we add this place, which<br>
seems really srana to srana, if you know what I mean.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ll also be adding this to the gismu issues page.<br>
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n class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys=
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