Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:39750) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SlmJa-0001K6-IJ; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:29:44 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf5593168obb.16 for ; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sbUMVmGQaAY6LvJv8vFCS8iVBq8RyiZpcy7C8rN3j+4=; b=bEN5OkOKGiT4V0WLoRS+splvuYFofB2qkE9VRceumyz0UWWQrpyVky7NfcR2fMuscY TkYIMpncMJ89O/w1ZDZnMQJOZ6+1V0+ZixH3l/jxqN20oky6aRhsiCVnK114oFx4IK+y gLYsf/Fit/FqGg6JyqkiSbpmUR58fym2Em7dc= Received: by 10.50.216.164 with SMTP id or4mr459470igc.1.1341257375533; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:29:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.71.218 with SMTP id i26ls6413584ibj.5.gmail; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.195.199 with SMTP id ig7mr6640876igc.3.1341257374770; Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.82.3 with SMTP id e3msigy; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr1301988pbc.4.1340957529547; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.104 with SMTP id gp8mr1301986pbc.4.1340957529522; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si1571940pbc.1.2012.06.29.01.12.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of muhammad.nael@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.50; Received: by mail-pz0-f50.google.com with SMTP id h15so4559953dan.23 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.213.234 with SMTP id nv10mr4381343pbc.56.1340957529177; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.196 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a315ff4-fb94-4f9c-a1b0-c1bcc63ba74b@d6g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:12:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making echo while speeching From: "Muhammad Na'el" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: muhammad.nael@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of muhammad.nael@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=muhammad.nael@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb207802f7e0b04c3980127 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb207802f7e0b04c3980127 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Maybe this's true for the lerfu. > The phoneme "ts" is usually pronounced in the duration of one normal > consonant (as in most approximants). > So, the phoneme "ts" should be pronounced longer *(?)* to help > distinguish between its 2 parts; the same applies for other similar lette= rs. > When "prosody *(?)* is eventually integrated (or worked with) in Lojban, > logic will be our judge. ---The *(?)*'s are mine. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM, buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk < buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > may this true for d lerfu... > the pronounciaton 'ts' be pronounounced in one letter duration time not i= n > two or more so we can distinguished by ts two letters or more such as ts > in "tsani" will soken in two letters duration time, and so on... > note: when prosody do with lojban will appear principles like this, at > that time should persuade our selves by logic rules. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/BucnAbpNDcEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 =E2=80=BA=E2=80=BA MN --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Maybe this's true for the lerfu.
T= he=C2=A0phoneme "ts" is usually pronounced in the duration of one= normal consonant (as in most approximants).
So, the phoneme "ts" should be pronounced longer (?)=C2=A0= to help distinguish between its 2 parts; the same applies for other similar= letters.
When "prosody (?)=C2=A0is eventually integrated (o= r worked with) in Lojban, logic will be our judge.

---The (?)'s are mine.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:00 AM, buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk><= /span> wrote:
may this true for d lerfu...
the pronounciaton 'ts' be pronounounced in one letter duration= time not in two or more=C2=A0so we can distinguished by ts two letters or = more=C2=A0such as ts in=C2=A0"tsani" will soken in two letters du= ration time, and so on...
note: when prosody do with lojban will appear principles like this, at= that time should=C2=A0persuade our selves by logic rules.

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