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Ah ha! I have found it. It's actually in an topic on the main Lojban group
entitled "The Mad Proposals":
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/lojban/ExtEumbYoQg

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:41 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let's discuss it now ))).
>> After reading the article I want new language even less.
>> *The monkey took the banana and ate it.*
>> *Pam went home because she felt sick.*
>> *The dog ate the bird and it died.*  (!!!!!!!!!!!)
>>
>> In each case I can use {ta} and the context will decide who felt sick
>> (the house or Pam) and who died (the dog or the bird).
>>
>> In other cases  vo'a, ko'a can solve the problem.
>>
>> {sei} can be problematic for me but I hope CLL 1.1 will explain it.
>>
>> I can think of no other cases of anaphora.
>>
>> And it's still am mystery for me what can be done with
>>
>> 2. There should be new cmavo for individuals, sets and masses
>> 3. new design of connectives
>>
>>
> Well, the connectives issue is, as far as I'm aware, that there's too many
> of them, and some are very poorly defined- we don't know exactly how they
> interact.
>
> I believe .xorxes. created a proposal that addressed the first issue at
> least. I remember reading it, and deciding that I rather liked the idea.
> Let me see if I can find it, I know it's on the Lojban site.
>
>
>> On Monday, July 2, 2012 10:26:12 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:
>>
>>> It's come up a few times.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Anaphora_(linguistics)<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphora_%28linguistics%29>
>>>
>>> I think we're working on the rest.
>>>
>>> It's a theoretical next-step language, but I don't see it happening any
>>> time soon since we're changing up our game.
>>>
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>
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>
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Ah ha! I have found it. It&#39;s actually in an topic on the main Lojban gr=
oup entitled &quot;The Mad Proposals&quot;: <a href=3D"https://groups.googl=
e.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/lojban/ExtEumbYoQg">https://groups.google.co=
m/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/lojban/ExtEumbYoQg</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Jonathan Jon=
es <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at=
 3:41 AM, gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Let&#39;s discuss it now ))).<div>After reading the article I want new lang=
uage even less.</div><div><i style=3D"line-height:19.200000762939453px;font=
-family:sans-serif">The monkey took the banana and ate it.</i>=A0</div><div=
>

<i style=3D"line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-family:sans-serif">Pam we=
nt home because she felt sick.</i><span style=3D"line-height:19.20000076293=
9453px;font-family:sans-serif">=A0</span>=A0</div><div><i style=3D"line-hei=
ght:19.200000762939453px;font-family:sans-serif">The dog ate the bird and i=
t died.</i>=A0 (!!!!!!!!!!!)</div>

<div><br></div><div>In each case I can use {ta} and the context will decide=
 who felt sick (the house or Pam) and who died (the dog or the bird).</div>=
<div><br></div><div>In other cases =A0vo&#39;a, ko&#39;a can solve the prob=
lem.</div>

<div><br></div><div>{sei} can be problematic for me but I hope CLL 1.1 will=
 explain it.</div><div><br></div><div>I can think of no other cases of anap=
hora.</div><div><br></div><div>And it&#39;s still am mystery for me what ca=
n be done with</div>

<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div><=
div>2. There should be new cmavo for individuals, sets and masses</div></di=
v></div><div><div>3. new design of connectives</div></div></blockquote>
</blockquote></div><div><br>Well, the connectives issue is, as far as I&#39=
;m aware, that there&#39;s too many of them, and some are very poorly defin=
ed- we don&#39;t know exactly how they interact.<br><br>I believe .xorxes. =
created a proposal that addressed the first issue at least. I remember read=
ing it, and deciding that I rather liked the idea. Let me see if I can find=
 it, I know it&#39;s on the Lojban site.<br>

=A0</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div>On Monday, July 2, 2012 10:26:12 AM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:</=
div>
<div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It&#39;s come up a few times.<div><=
a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphora_%28linguistics%29" target=
=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Anaphora_(linguistics)</a>=
<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>I think we&#39;re working on the rest.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>It&#39;s a theoretical next-step language, but I don&#39;t s=
ee it happening any time soon since we&#39;re changing up our game.</div>

</blockquote></div></div><div>

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