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All of them could have a "by standard" place added, so both {ta karce ma'i
la .niu.iork.} and {ta cladakyxa'i ma'i la .niu.iork.} would have the
current meanings, but {ta karce} would mean the same thing as {ta karce
ma'i zi'o} while {ta cladakyxa'i} would mean the same thing as {ta
cladakyxa'i ma'i zo'e} and {ta cladadyxa'i fu la .niu.iork.} would have a
non-existent place filled.

Apologies if I misunderstand the meaning of "BAI zi'o"

I've been thinking too much about math recently, so the way I view it might
not be illuminating to anyone, but I view the current state of affairs as
selbri having infinitely many places, the "numbered" of which are filled
with {zo'e} by default and the others of which are filled with {zi'o} by
default and I'm suggesting removing some numbered places that correspond to
the same thing as a BAI place and filling the BAI place with {zo'e}.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wro=
te:

> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:35 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > One of the things that drew me to lojban was the fact that the gismu
> > relationships were carefully defined (e.g. [almost?] every one that cou=
ld
> > have a "by standard" place did).
>
> How do you determine which ones couldn't have a "by standard" place?
> It seems to me that every relationship could have a "by standard"
> place added, so those gismu that have an explicit one are only a small
> fraction of those that could have it.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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All of them could have a &quot;by standard&quot; place added, so both {ta k=
arce ma&#39;i la .niu.iork.} and {ta cladakyxa&#39;i ma&#39;i la .niu.iork.=
} would have the current meanings, but {ta karce} would mean the same thing=
 as {ta karce ma&#39;i zi&#39;o} while {ta cladakyxa&#39;i} would mean the =
same thing as {ta cladakyxa&#39;i ma&#39;i zo&#39;e} and {ta cladadyxa&#39;=
i fu la .niu.iork.} would have a non-existent place filled.<br>

<br>Apologies if I misunderstand the meaning of &quot;BAI zi&#39;o&quot;<br=
><br>I&#39;ve been thinking too much about math recently, so the way I view=
 it might not be illuminating to anyone, but I view the current state of af=
fairs as selbri having infinitely many places, the &quot;numbered&quot; of =
which are filled with {zo&#39;e} by default and the others of which are fil=
led with {zi&#39;o} by default and I&#39;m suggesting removing some numbere=
d places that correspond to the same thing as a BAI place and filling the B=
AI place with {zo&#39;e}.<br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Jorge Llamb=
=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"im">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:35 PM, .arpis. &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rpglover64%2Bjbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; One of the things that drew me to lojban was the fact that the gismu<b=
r>
&gt; relationships were carefully defined (e.g. [almost?] every one that co=
uld<br>
&gt; have a &quot;by standard&quot; place did).<br>
<br>
</div>How do you determine which ones couldn&#39;t have a &quot;by standard=
&quot; place?<br>
It seems to me that every relationship could have a &quot;by standard&quot;=
<br>
place added, so those gismu that have an explicit one are only a small<br>
fraction of those that could have it.<br>
<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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