Received: from mail-yw0-f56.google.com ([209.85.213.56]:59258) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sm1jt-0000Xu-Kz; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:58:02 -0700 Received: by yhjj63 with SMTP id j63sf7544775yhj.1 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9Fd3KjvC1kgilQQDYd0/rymwnoajWqzrHvZjV7NdK08=; b=1vPPmMK8VFdxtZQ1fiZeMB/mtRj+GqayTKzm8Ye1QFw6P6crzw5j7diuiTIWvKJCoI mcfrky0hpKZZodR8VrhJ0Zi0HWB/Mgy9zk1AbA17JdzJOzFFM/N+a/wlyCGV/rfFPj1+ e7LolA85EXJphaHAdWSFpkRuqDaBsmMCVHyQQ= Received: by 10.50.149.197 with SMTP id uc5mr658563igb.5.1341316667038; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.178.73 with SMTP id cw9ls4493200igc.4.canary; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.179.66 with SMTP id de2mr8569512igc.4.1341316666177; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.179.66 with SMTP id de2mr8569510igc.4.1341316666162; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10si4745019igs.0.2012.07.03.04.57.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id eh20so4986843obb.10 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.12.37 with SMTP id v5mr17930877oeb.25.1341316665960; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:57:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.17.97 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 04:57:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: ".arpis." Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:57:25 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Why {danfu, preti, spuda...} are in separate gismu? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83a73567e7c004c3eb9f89 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f83a73567e7c004c3eb9f89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What about {zi'o preti ko'a ko'e ko'i fi'o danfu ko'o}; it has the right places but in the wrong order. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:40 AM, gleki wrote: > Everyone understands the power of lojban when several sumti are connected > within > > Currently I don't understand why the concepts of "question" and "answer" > are not linked within one gismu. > danfu, preti, spuda... no solution. > > danfu - x1 is the answer/response/solution/[reply] to question/problem x2. > preti - x1 (quoted text) is a question/query about subject x2 by > questioner x3 to audience x4. > spuda - x1 answers/replies to/responds to > person/object/event/situation/stimulus x2 with response x3. > > I wish I could express something like > x1 questions someone x2 about x3 getting reply/answer x4 > > Robin told me that currently we can say "mi spuda le nu do te preti mi le > se du'u preti spuda kei kei dei"which isn't exactly compact. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/tm1xn6gV4x4J. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8f83a73567e7c004c3eb9f89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What about {zi'o preti ko'a ko'e ko'i fi'o danfu ko'= ;o}; it has the right places but in the wrong order.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:40 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.na= me@gmail.com> wrote:
Everyone understands the power of lojban whe= n several sumti are connected within=A0

Currently I don't u= nderstand why the concepts of "question" and "answer" a= re not linked within one gismu.
danfu, preti, spuda... no solution.

danfu - x1 is the answ= er/response/solution/[reply] to question/problem x2.
preti -=A0x1= (quoted text) is a question/query about subject x2 by questioner x3 to aud= ience x4.
spuda - x1 answers/replies to/responds to person/object/event/sit= uation/stimulus x2 with response x3.

I= wish I could express something like
x1 questions someone x2=A0ab= out x3=A0getting reply/answer x4

Robin told me that currently we can say "mi spuda = le nu do te preti mi le se du'u preti spuda kei kei dei"which=A0is= n't exactly compact.

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