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On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

>
> Am 02.07.2012 16:19, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
>
>
> "ni'o lo kalte ca lo nu lo xarju panzi cu jbikla cu daktuncatra gi'e
> lebna lo fepri .e lo livga gi'e bevri fi'o sinxa ku fi lo noltruni'u .i lo
> jukpa cu .ei silnyjau jukpa xai"
>
>    Now, I'm not an expert on the grammar of experimental camvo like
> "xai", and obviously you intend the referent to be lo fepri jo'u lo livga,
> but couldn't it also be lo noltruni'u jo'u lo jukpa?  Is "xai" like "ra",
> vague? Or is it like "ri" and strictly referring to the most recent n>2
> sumti?
>
>
> I use it like "ra" but referring to multiple sumti. I haven't seen this
> word used much, if at all, so I don't know how other people use it. I do
> think, however, that (if understood to work like ra) it is apparent that it
> refers to lung and liver, because the cook is unlikely to cook the queen
> and himself. :)
> If xai is supposed to refer to the last <1 sumti immediately preceeding
> it, then another cmavo would be useful to have that behaves the way I used
> xai in the story (maybe xau). Let's hear what its inventor (Pierre, I
> believe) thinks about it.
>
>
>  lu .i mu'i bo na djica lo nu xaksu ro da fa ny po'o li'u zo'u mi
za'ure'u se cfipu tu'a la'e zo ny

       --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at =
10:36 AM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.d=
e" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">

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   =20
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <br>
    <div>Am 02.07.2012 16:19, schrieb Michael
      Turniansky:<br>
    </div><div class=3D"im">
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
        <div>&quot;<span style=3D"line-height:18px;text-align:left;font-siz=
e:12px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif">ni&#39;o
            lo kalte ca lo nu lo xarju panzi cu jbikla cu daktuncatra
            gi&#39;e lebna lo fepri .e lo livga gi&#39;e bevri fi&#39;o sin=
xa ku fi
            lo noltruni&#39;u .i lo jukpa cu .ei silnyjau jukpa xai&quot;</=
span></div>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial,
            sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px"><br=
>
            </span></font></div>
        <div style=3D"text-align:left"><font face=3D"Verdana, Arial,
            sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12px;line-height:18px">=A0
              Now, I&#39;m not an expert on the grammar of experimental
              camvo like &quot;xai&quot;, and obviously you intend the refe=
rent to
              be lo fepri jo&#39;u lo livga, but couldn&#39;t it also be lo
              noltruni&#39;u jo&#39;u lo jukpa? =A0Is &quot;xai&quot; like =
&quot;ra&quot;, vague? Or
              is it like &quot;ri&quot; and strictly referring to the most =
recent
              n&gt;2 sumti?</span></font></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br></div>
    I use it like &quot;ra&quot; but referring to multiple sumti. I haven&#=
39;t seen
    this word used much, if at all, so I don&#39;t know how other people us=
e
    it. I do think, however, that (if understood to work like ra) it is
    apparent that it refers to lung and liver, because the cook is
    unlikely to cook the queen and himself. :)<br>
    If xai is supposed to refer to the last &lt;1 sumti immediately
    preceeding it, then another cmavo would be useful to have that
    behaves the way I used xai in the story (maybe xau). Let&#39;s hear wha=
t
    its inventor (Pierre, I believe) thinks about it.<div class=3D"im"><br>=
<br></div></div></blockquote><div>=A0lu .i=A0<span style=3D"background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line=
-height:18px;text-align:left">mu&#39;i bo na djica lo nu xaksu ro da fa ny =
po&#39;o li&#39;u</span>=A0zo&#39;u mi za&#39;ure&#39;u se cfipu tu&#39;a l=
a&#39;e zo ny</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div></div>

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