Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:48178) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Smnl4-0007WC-0Z; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:21 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf7723055qca.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BF5K60EtvWmtcBBT3O5hFaNJnbMQPTp1Js5yF2y5Ef4=; b=sV6+7bKSdg/k1o+XseXpJl1kDLG7aPALv20IF6cS/pTsaxTRI8lyYw/d9I7E+fF3JY zR6R0Q+QgqsPnxuz9jmsGo/wgMC9izv7HMn3OrtwupDYpFaR8w/cKfndx8GIVT1+acgl aTLxE9G/zOLUXzS1CRzy1F16te5Ml1UoR3jdA= Received: by 10.52.34.9 with SMTP id v9mr1520341vdi.9.1341501251110; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.115.146 with SMTP id i18ls4708662vcq.0.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.75.161 with SMTP id d1mr20639176vdw.2.1341501250541; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.75.161 with SMTP id d1mr20639174vdw.2.1341501250531; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12si3000941vdf.3.2012.07.05.08.14.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.52; Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23so5154215vbz.25 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.92.228 with SMTP id cp4mr10660341vdb.42.1341501250373; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.193 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201207050543.54670.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: Jacob Errington Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 11:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] How to say "aspect"? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Using {sekai}, you can give a property for which the x1 of the parent bridi is, in this case srana1, presumably the argument to the function. Chances are you're going to want to use a -kau inside that property in order to be specific as to what way, exactly, the things are related. For example, {lo nu mi se jibri cu srana lo da'i nu mi klama lo jugygu'e kei sekai lo ka lo se jerna be fi ce'u cu se pleji fo tu'a lo pikta be fi makau} Of course, someone who's never seen this type of thing before might not be certain of what exactly that ce'u is taking as an argument, but in this case, context is largely sufficient. mu'o mi'e la tsani On 5 July 2012 08:29, Efrain Caro wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> This is related to the x3 of "srana", but it's different. I'd like to define a >> bunch of words of the class {fraso, labru'o, skalduna, ...} in Lojban. A >> typical example is "ko'a srana lo .aftoxtono be lai .pireneos. fi'o broda >> ko'e", where "broda" is supposed to mean "aspect". What do I put for "broda"? > > What about {kai}? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.