Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:63930) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SmqLR-0000VU-EZ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:00:03 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf6231695eek.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2trLpbijM78HrpIQSiU7DSjZINGAfWSIR1IBMUbk2e8=; b=gvmpvyUW93hlPATC9nM7lY7ObPwinbc9wQq4wgQ/AKUOaGq8jk1lgc/6PAJ89B4/pf E1HLq81RP6AsDYD+o7fO2HmtSGoNDZ+fjwbDJQH9BvjiVvTnx0ZqSa0y8SqJeLx1XguR F1wVdbHQrnS4qJBsPaTppKr+n1zJ/wOJEcyM8= Received: by 10.216.138.200 with SMTP id a50mr278682wej.37.1341511192313; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.196.193 with SMTP id r43ls10691226wen.7.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.8.41 with SMTP id o9mr116856wia.4.1341511190700; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.8.41 with SMTP id o9mr116855wia.4.1341511190692; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id fb20si197405wid.3.2012.07.05.10.59.50; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Jul 2012 17:59:50 -0000 Received: from p57A089F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.137.245] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 05 Jul 2012 19:59:50 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KmbFeba3KQbWkmuMiRA83sfMu3r2ES+adOVzvIc FIDSjzXdGyAuSJ Message-ID: <4FF5D613.1050709@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:59:47 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: position/shape, or something. References: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 05.07.2012 19:23, schrieb Robin Lee Powell: > The sentiment was "Yay! You changed position from sitting to > crawling! Well done!", and I just got completely stuck; how do we > talk about the difference between a person sitting and a person > crawling? Or the difference between a convertible with the top up > or the top down? Or the options for a Transformer toy? > > That is: changes in the position of the parts of an object that > change nothing intrinsic about it? I've run into this a bunch of > time when wanting to talk about them thrashing around and stuff, but > I've cheated and used sutff like "desk" and "dansu", but that's not > going to cut the mustard here. > > Help? > > -Robin All you really need is binxo: ui sai io do binxo lo zutse mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.