Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:35594) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Smue3-000253-AD; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:34 -0700 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5sf6471084lbo.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RrfZwsTkb+eWQ3lYVZEkIuBlO/JDucixi5i2p9RFSRY=; b=2bypM3oDd/Qx215DptyANZ42QGBljQ5u1rSEpnKrRZ0VbtNgFaOswgia1ij3ehzNnE EhEacTWMtHaxmpWcsKn5mjQmnW+qv54HFVjmYFVzP+zBUVNsEbPjVPO1uCWCNBJW/uBO CIpD6peE93E75xtPZGMSCm+lzr2/zcn6QSY28= Received: by 10.205.121.138 with SMTP id gc10mr240593bkc.33.1341527721962; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.131 with SMTP id t3ls4026797bks.9.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.14 with SMTP id hk14mr560450bkc.5.1341527719565; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.14 with SMTP id hk14mr560448bkc.5.1341527719502; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4si8309975bkj.3.2012.07.05.15.35.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.174; Received: by lbbgm6 with SMTP id gm6so4566152lbb.33 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.195 with SMTP id tu3mr27886484lab.16.1341527719113; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.63.48 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 15:35:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 19:35:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: position/shape, or something. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-list@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > The sentiment was "Yay! You changed position from sitting to > crawling! Well done!", and I just got completely stuck; how do we > talk about the difference between a person sitting and a person > crawling? ui .i'e do cenba co'a lo nu zutse kei co'u lo nu cpare The difficult part is a word or phrase for "position" as in "stance", but that's the same problem we have for all such names of properties ("shape", "size", "age", "height", and so on). We have words for specific types of them, but not for the general property. You could also say "do binxo lo cpare co'a lo nu zutse". > That is: changes in the position of the parts of an object that > change nothing intrinsic about it? Something like "cenba lo ka lo pagbu be ce'u cu zvati ma kau". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.