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Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 11:39:57AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>> I'm honestly surprised that 1) we don't have a gismu for this
>> concept, and 2) that no one's really noticed it until recently. I
>> would think this concept would be a well-used one.
>
> That's starting to be my feeling as well; I think it deserves a
> gismu.

The easy answer to "does it deserve a gismu" is :  Does any language 
(and in particular our source languages) express this concept in a 
single word?  If not, then it is hard to claim that it is so basic a 
concept as to warrant one.

As for the concept, Nora suggests "stura" 
(structure/arrangement/organization) or "morna" (another expression of 
pattern/arrangement), or even ciste which talks about an arrangement of 
elements, to which I will add "tcini" (which includes position) - 
whichever is used, one "binxo"s that position/state.

The action taken in assuming a new form or position is probably some 
form of polje or tcena.

I always thought of crawling as horizontal clambering "cpare" (and had 
this in mind when defining the gismu), so assuming the crawling position 
would be "pinparturbi'o (with other possibilities for the third element 
per above).

lojbab

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