Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:50904) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sn0Oq-0003lt-9P; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:17 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf9371209obb.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RS2ves1E1kmEbJu4KK7WhLTy7KGk5/9dw8kSfvCwJQM=; b=AcaitHHNI0WRo3BYiAHPPRl/PQB6YPjdCrBFtoAyrBgNxbw7YAk2OZTXDGwFOoIDMy xUV0s+NVHYmVt3H4x2EVXiN7mTrqhvpOilLLKS0Rd3mJaYEnQnh6y879lVbXcUH71V/U dYPIN0JyBi4Btq4sF6J7J4S87j7RjecdPN7Mg= Received: by 10.50.237.10 with SMTP id uy10mr426936igc.3.1341549845212; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.52.41 with SMTP id f41ls9786603ibg.3.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.203.103 with SMTP id kp7mr2138445igc.2.1341549843311; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.203.103 with SMTP id kp7mr2138443igc.2.1341549843297; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gv6si602093igb.0.2012.07.05.21.44.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ta14so14573221obb.4 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.137 with SMTP id ey9mr1422499igb.61.1341549842460; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.103] (76-76-236-67.lisco.net. [76.76.236.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm3351789igj.15.2012.07.05.21.44.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 21:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FF66D0F.9050807@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:43:59 -0500 From: vitci'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: position/shape, or something. References: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120705185623.GE4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4FF61B58.8040608@lojban.org> <20120706004649.GC3566@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4FF64B15.30205@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: celestialcognition@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of celestialcognition@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=celestialcognition@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / For the word we're trying to translate into lojban. On 07/05/2012 09:27 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > English glosses for what? > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:19 PM, vitci'i wrote: > >> Some more English glosses: posture (for humans and other animals); >> gesture (for a ko'a or change in ko'a that expresses something). >> >> In the general case, when a device or object has movable parts, the ko'a >> of the object is the current state to which those parts are moved. For >> example, this could express the state of a mechanical light switch (but >> not of a light bulb), or the position of the hands of an analog clock >> (but not the activatedness of the display segments of a digital clock). >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.