Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:33492) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sn2AA-0004NX-Bt; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:15 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf10175248vbz.16 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-disposition; bh=hG2psVVrb25A1R69AAJk1nTp17oE8iehOwSVXQAPJGA=; b=y3hfhMWvv1m8NSnq3w2XbLEOLAH3x00bc5dzpDCIRjIxc8ziOMpm5vDaug7rPVQjuM UWGSAVImo2IXXrhK1Qax1kiUplnadq+6p4ioqUcIJPwcFF0B9LN1tIj2bVLLD85kjhPG DplMuPzJijQXWjPlolMNJhXLe1aVzKHTqV7X8= Received: by 10.68.134.71 with SMTP id pi7mr1050237pbb.19.1341556623588; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.227.136 with SMTP id sa8ls2385025pbc.8.gmail; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.67 with SMTP id ry3mr12239109pbc.8.1341556623130; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.227.67 with SMTP id ry3mr12239108pbc.8.1341556623078; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si2487476pbc.1.2012.07.05.23.37.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sn2A1-0004NR-Nb for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:37:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 23:37:01 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: position/shape, or something. Message-ID: <20120706063701.GH3566@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20120705172307.GC4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20120705185623.GE4293@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <4FF61B58.8040608@lojban.org> <2177670.Py503k6M0u@mehitabel> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2177670.Py503k6M0u@mehitabel> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:24:03AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday, July 05, 2012 06:55:20 PM Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > As for the concept, Nora suggests "stura" > > (structure/arrangement/organization) or "morna" (another > > expression of pattern/arrangement), or even ciste which talks > > about an arrangement > of > > elements, to which I will add "tcini" (which includes position) > > - whichever is used, one "binxo"s that position/state. > > > > The action taken in assuming a new form or position is probably > > some form of polje or tcena. > > I think "morna" is the right one, and to make it more specific > "plomo'a", which could of course also be the way a sheet of paper > is folded. > > (I just got my computer working on my aunt's network and am quite > tired after flying across the country. Please forgive any > incoherence.) I seriously have *no idea* what morna means. Con you explain each place, and/or give examples? -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.