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{ko fendi gi'e jongau} is one way of saying it; {ko} is the imperative
"you", {gi'e} is "and", and {jongau} is compound based on {jorne} which
implies an agent.

{gau ko fendi je jorne} is another way, which I prefer aesthetically,
although it is probably less likely to come up in conversation.
{gau ko se fendi je jorne} has more semantic symmetry.

You could also say {gau ko fedjo'e}, coining {fedjo'e} (the compound of
{fedni} and {jorne}) to be the alchemical motto, or {gau ko selfedjo'e},
where {selfedjo'e} is the motto (this is preferable for the same reason as
the statement containing {se fendi}.

I'm not sure if this is the correct way to take that phrase as a name
(names can't be arbitrary phrases in lojban), but here's what I'd say: {la
selfedjo'e pe gau ko}.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:50 AM, <Kosmaton@gmx.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> How would you say 'solve et coagula' in lojban? It is a Latin alchemical
> motto, obviously meaning 'solve and coagulate' or 'divide and join' -- 1st
> person imperative. I've found 'fendi' and 'jorne' but don't know how to put
> them in a phrase. I don't speak any lojban.
>
> It's for the name of a boat. A packraft, to be precise. I do like the
> Latin phrase, but when push comes to shove I'd prefer a still more
> universal and less imperialist language.
>
> Thank you in advance!
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{ko fendi gi&#39;e jongau} is one way of saying it; {ko} is the imperative =
&quot;you&quot;, {gi&#39;e} is &quot;and&quot;, and {jongau} is compound ba=
sed on {jorne} which implies an agent.<br><br>{gau ko fendi je jorne} is an=
other way, which I prefer aesthetically, although it is probably less likel=
y to come up in conversation.<br>

{gau ko se fendi je jorne} has more semantic symmetry.<br><br>You could als=
o say {gau ko fedjo&#39;e}, coining {fedjo&#39;e} (the compound of {fedni} =
and {jorne}) to be the alchemical motto, or {gau ko selfedjo&#39;e}, where =
{selfedjo&#39;e} is the motto (this is preferable for the same reason as th=
e statement containing {se fendi}.<br>

<br>I&#39;m not sure if this is the correct way to take that phrase as a na=
me (names can&#39;t be arbitrary phrases in lojban), but here&#39;s what I&=
#39;d say: {la selfedjo&#39;e pe gau ko}.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:50 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Ko=
smaton@gmx.com" target=3D"_blank">Kosmaton@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<span>Hello!<br><br>How would you say &#39;solve et coagula&#39; in lojban?=
=20
It is a Latin alchemical motto, obviously meaning &#39;solve and coagulate&=
#39;=20
or &#39;divide and join&#39; -- 1st person imperative. I&#39;ve found &#39;=
fendi&#39; and=20
&#39;jorne&#39; but don&#39;t know how to put them in a phrase. I don&#39;t=
 speak any lojban.<br><br>It&#39;s for the name of a boat. A packraft, to b=
e precise. I do like the Latin phrase, but when push comes to shove I&#39;d=
 prefer a still more universal and less imperialist language.<br>

<br>Thank you in advance!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br=
></font></span></span><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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