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Hi,

{la} grammatically functions in a fashion almost identical to the way
in which {lo} and {le} act, which might give the impression that is
has the same gloss. However, {la} usually... disappears when you
translate jbo->en: {la. djan. klama lo zarci} -> "John goes to the
store." {la} is required to signal the following construct, be it a
selbri or a cmevla-string, as a name, rather than a real description,
as is the case with {lo}: {mi dunda lo plise la plise} -> "I give an
apple to Apple."

Alternatively, you could paint a regular bridi on the boat, and then
refer to the boat using an appropriate la-description. For example,
paint {jatna ro xamsi} "[It's the] master of all the seas." on the
boat, and then presumably refer to the boat with {la rolxamsi jatna}
"All-seas Master".

mu'o mi'e la tsani

On 6 July 2012 18:11,  <Kosmaton@gmx.com> wrote:
> Hello, and thanks!
>
> Regarding your final suggestion:
>
> I like the compound {fedjo'e} - very appropriate in this 'two sides of one
> coin' case.
> Could you explain a bit more what the {sel}, {pe} and {gau} bits do?
> Funny that "names can't be arbitrary phrases in lojban". I suppose it's
> uncommon in many languages really. Still, isn't the {la} like 'the' -- but
> you might paint 'Sidewinder' on a boat, not necessarily 'The Sidewinder'
> even if you'd refer to the boat as 'the Sidewinder' in conversation...?
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