Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:64445) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SnmqB-0003hS-Hm; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:27:40 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf11612835obb.16 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:27:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CEcIqsQyNoglU+iSJhj8KTTyGStsMaw4hgwXeY8chsE=; b=0F6YpEFmo5LkYWPgV/TxeTaXBjf8+iL/fke0ZankflnQiyoritM7dVrDK/1XIrzvIn /3lXZfXIgBwQy/EZJeUQ2EJ/W2hVDQj7yQLHxAIjQXN4ZLltPpsTHXeOH46xlfRD3Mpm VOWBoBQW+sODwRbRRAtlFrSFp9sx2uZY4KZh4= Received: by 10.52.68.141 with SMTP id w13mr904091vdt.18.1341736053225; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:27:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.141.4 with SMTP id k4ls3906887vcu.9.gmail; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.66.44 with SMTP id c12mr1888795vdt.19.1341736052733; Sun, 08 Jul 2012 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 6g2000vbv.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jul 2012 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 01:27:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <81758a87-b79d-4c4d-a290-0ebaaa261f8b@6g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: 'Solve & coagula' in lojban? From: Kosmaton To: lojban X-Original-Sender: kosmaton@gmx.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of Kosmaton@gmx.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=Kosmaton@gmx.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmx.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / In fact, if I read the definitions of {fendi} and {jorne} carefully, {fedjo'e} would not be ambiguous, it would be 'splitting, and being joined' (active for splitting, passive for being joined). And that is why .arpis suggested {selfedjo'e} rather than something like {fedseljo'e}? How much compounding can you do? {fedselfedla'ajo'e} for 'splitting, being split, connecting, and being connected? On 8 jul, 09:55, Kosmaton wrote: > Thanks a lot Jacob and .arpis for explaining these aspects! I am now > tending to just paint {selfedjo'e} on the boat (would you include the > curly braces?), and refer to her as {la selfedjo'e}. It is more > compact than the longer imperative phrase, and if I get it right the > meaning is 'being split and joined', which is good. > > Of perhaps just {fedjo'e}. That's even shorter and avoids confusion > with 'self' in English. And I'm happy to leave it open whether things > are being split and joined, or doing the splitting and joining - maybe > both at once. Or is such ambiguity frowned upon in the lojban ethos? > > I think {fendi} captures the meaning better than {runta}, but just out > of interest, how would you form the compound word with {runta}? I > gather that for {fedjo'e} you stuck the two relevant rafsi together > (just from scanning what jbovlaste says), but no rafsi is listed for > {runta}. > > Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.