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Between "d" and "s" there must be a "y", since "d" is voiced and "s" is
unvoiced (i.e., the voicing doesn't match): {fedyseljo'e},
{fedyselfedla'ajo'e}.

stevo

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Kosmaton <Kosmaton@gmx.com> wrote:

> In fact, if I read the definitions of {fendi} and {jorne} carefully,
> {fedjo'e} would not be ambiguous, it would be 'splitting, and being
> joined' (active for splitting, passive for being joined). And that is
> why .arpis suggested {selfedjo'e} rather than something like
> {fedseljo'e}?
>
> How much compounding can you do? {fedselfedla'ajo'e} for 'splitting,
> being split, connecting, and being connected?
>
>
> On 8 jul, 09:55, Kosmaton <Kosma...@gmx.com> wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Jacob and .arpis for explaining these aspects! I am now
> > tending to just paint {selfedjo'e} on the boat (would you include the
> > curly braces?), and refer to her as {la selfedjo'e}. It is more
> > compact than the longer imperative phrase, and if I get it right the
> > meaning is 'being split and joined', which is good.
> >
> > Of perhaps just {fedjo'e}. That's even shorter and avoids confusion
> > with 'self' in English. And I'm happy to leave it open whether things
> > are being split and joined, or doing the splitting and joining - maybe
> > both at once. Or is such ambiguity frowned upon in the lojban ethos?
> >
> > I think {fendi} captures the meaning better than {runta}, but just out
> > of interest, how would you form the compound word with {runta}? I
> > gather that for {fedjo'e} you stuck the two relevant rafsi together
> > (just from scanning what jbovlaste says), but no rafsi is listed for
> > {runta}.
> >
> > Thanks again!
>
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Between &quot;d&quot; and &quot;s&quot; there must be a &quot;y&quot;, sinc=
e &quot;d&quot; is voiced and &quot;s&quot; is unvoiced (i.e., the voicing =
doesn&#39;t match): {fedyseljo&#39;e}, {fedyselfedla&#39;ajo&#39;e}.=A0<div=
>

<br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 =
at 4:27 AM, Kosmaton <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Kosmaton@gmx.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">Kosmaton@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">

In fact, if I read the definitions of {fendi} and {jorne} carefully,<br>
{fedjo&#39;e} would not be ambiguous, it would be &#39;splitting, and being=
<br>
joined&#39; (active for splitting, passive for being joined). And that is<b=
r>
why .arpis suggested {selfedjo&#39;e} rather than something like<br>
{fedseljo&#39;e}?<br>
<br>
How much compounding can you do? {fedselfedla&#39;ajo&#39;e} for &#39;split=
ting,<br>
being split, connecting, and being connected?<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On 8 jul, 09:55, Kosmaton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Kosma...@gmx.com">Kosma...@=
gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Thanks a lot Jacob and .arpis for explaining these aspects! I am now<b=
r>
&gt; tending to just paint {selfedjo&#39;e} on the boat (would you include =
the<br>
&gt; curly braces?), and refer to her as {la selfedjo&#39;e}. It is more<br=
>
&gt; compact than the longer imperative phrase, and if I get it right the<b=
r>
&gt; meaning is &#39;being split and joined&#39;, which is good.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Of perhaps just {fedjo&#39;e}. That&#39;s even shorter and avoids conf=
usion<br>
&gt; with &#39;self&#39; in English. And I&#39;m happy to leave it open whe=
ther things<br>
&gt; are being split and joined, or doing the splitting and joining - maybe=
<br>
&gt; both at once. Or is such ambiguity frowned upon in the lojban ethos?<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think {fendi} captures the meaning better than {runta}, but just out=
<br>
&gt; of interest, how would you form the compound word with {runta}? I<br>
&gt; gather that for {fedjo&#39;e} you stuck the two relevant rafsi togethe=
r<br>
&gt; (just from scanning what jbovlaste says), but no rafsi is listed for<b=
r>
&gt; {runta}.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks again!<br>
<br>
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