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I would prefer we didn't have another split, myself. We have Loglan,
Lojban, Gua/Spi, Ithkuil, and possibly other much less known derivatives
already. Every time someone decides to start a new lojbau, everyone
suffers. And regardless of what problems your chosen lojbau is, it isn't
perfect. It never will be. Dividing our efforts just makes it so that the
true goal of all these languages- to be /spoken/ by /people/- will never be
accomplished.

The quest for perfection is a futile one. What we have with Lojban now is
good. Granted, it could be better, but that will always be true. It was
true of "LoCCan1", it's true of "LoCCan2", and it will be true of
"LoCCan34234234234". Starting over from scratch isn't the solution. Yes,
you may be able to make a new lojbau that doesn't have the problems you
perceive in "LoCCanN-1", but by making it, you create a new divide.

If we want jbogugde to exist, if we want people to speak our language-
whichever one we decide on- then what we need to do is not to make a new
one whenever we see problems. We need to either find an acceptable solution
/within/ our language, or we need to /deal with it/.

French is the third largest language on the internet. How many people do
you think would bother to learn French if every region had their own,
mutually incompatible dialects? Would English be nearly as pervasive as it
is if British, Australian, South African, and U.S. English speakers
couldn't understand each other?

To quote a rather famous saying, "Divided we fall, united we stand". I view
LoCCan3, and any other split, as the worst possible thing that could happen
to us as a whole.

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com>wrote:

> Curious...
>
> Why not just make it already?
> Quit talking and just do it. >_>
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I would prefer we didn&#39;t have another split, myself. We have Loglan, Lo=
jban, Gua/Spi, Ithkuil, and possibly other much less known derivatives alre=
ady. Every time someone decides to start a new lojbau, everyone suffers. An=
d regardless of what problems your chosen lojbau is, it isn&#39;t perfect. =
It never will be. Dividing our efforts just makes it so that the true goal =
of all these languages- to be /spoken/ by /people/- will never be accomplis=
hed.<br>
<br>The quest for perfection is a futile one. What we have with Lojban now =
is good. Granted, it could be better, but that will always be true. It was =
true of &quot;LoCCan1&quot;, it&#39;s true of &quot;LoCCan2&quot;, and it w=
ill be true of &quot;LoCCan34234234234&quot;. Starting over from scratch is=
n&#39;t the solution. Yes, you may be able to make a new lojbau that doesn&=
#39;t have the problems you perceive in &quot;LoCCanN-1&quot;, but by makin=
g it, you create a new divide.<br>
<br>If we want jbogugde to exist, if we want people to speak our language- =
whichever one we decide on- then what we need to do is not to make a new on=
e whenever we see problems. We need to either find an acceptable solution /=
within/ our language, or we need to /deal with it/.<br>
<br>French is the third largest language on the internet. How many people d=
o you think would bother to learn French if every region had their own, mut=
ually incompatible dialects? Would English be nearly as pervasive as it is =
if British, Australian, South African, and U.S. English speakers couldn&#39=
;t understand each other?<br>
<br>To quote a rather famous saying, &quot;Divided we fall, united we stand=
&quot;. I view LoCCan3, and any other split, as the worst possible thing th=
at could happen to us as a whole.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun,=
 Jul 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM, la .lindar. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:lindarthebard@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Curious...<div><br></div><div>Why not just m=
ake it already?</div><div>Quit talking and just do it. &gt;_&gt;</div><div =
class=3D"im">


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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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