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Am 09.07.2012 00:23, schrieb Jorge Llamb=EDas:
>>> I strongly disagree. There are a good number of "by standard"
>>> places that are used a lot, and I don't want to use BAI to get
>>> access to them. xamgu3 and dukse3 are two very common examples.
>> Quite.
> I use the x3 of "dukse",often, but I'm not sure I use it as a "by
> standard" place. I use it for things like:
>
> ti dukse lo ka tilju kei lo nu bevri
> "this is too heavy to carry"
>
> dukse lo ka manku kei lo nu ka'e viska
> "too dark to be able to see"
>
> So x3 is an event that doesn't happen because x1 has property x2 to a
> degree that exceeds the point which would still alow x3 to happen. I'm
> not sure that counts as a standard, at least it's not the usual
> standard place.

Yes, that's what I meant. I do consider this a form of standard/frame of=20
reference.
ti dukse lo ka tilju kei lo nu bevri
"this is too heavy in a frame of reference of carrying it" (but it's not=20
too heavy to stand on a table without breaking it for example)

If this was not something a standard place could do, it would be very=20
useless.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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.i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u
.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata



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