On T= ue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:26 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:

Co-filled argument places are argument-place= s that have the same value, e.g. in "Fx & Gx", the sole argum= ent places of F and of G are co-filled. Lojban avoids the verbosity of fill= ing every place by giving speakers the option of not encoding it (and impli= citly or explicitly filling the place with zo'e). I googled "categ= orical dual", but couldn't see any relevance to this discussion.
.arpis., On 10/07/2012 20:14:

What the heck is a "co-filled argument place" and does it have an= ything to do with a categorical dual?

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com <mailto:and.rosta@gmail.com>&g= t; wrote:

=A0 =A0 la gleki, On 09/07/2012 06:08:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:44:50 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrot= e:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Curious...

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Why not just make it already?
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Quit talking and just do it. >_>

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Indeed. And Rosta, please present something.

=A0 =A0 Alas, Gleki, it is on my list of projects, but with relatively low = priority on that list. Specifically, there are two relevant projects: one i= s an essay describing a possible solution to the core problem of loglangs (= namely, representation of co-filled argument places); the other is an essay= describing a modular approach to the creation of a logical language. The s= econd is not stunningly original, but might serve to frame and focus any co= llaborative effort that ever emerges. As for the first, I'm not convinc= ed the solution is processable by the human language faculty, and the probl= em may instead remain unsolved; I suppose publishing it might spur others t= o seek better solutions, but shortage of time for publishing one's proj= ects is the bane of my life.

=A0 =A0 I could sit down and jot down in an email a sketch of something pat= ently better as a loglang than Lojban, but the only worthwhile loglang is t= he one that cracks that fundamental problem of ergonomically representing c= o-filled argument places; without that, any other incremental improvement t= o Lojban has lost its appeal to me.

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