Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:48276) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Speut-0003sg-Pw; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:22 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf3992163pbb.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7sEE+1bENw7B1Nuf9xpMfLCZ1Yum4DeJUaLIE9Ziv68=; b=oS2C5uyIigfzaAoufA+dheE67ZshJae0TgYWaiqUoxpOzWN+et+PkB9A5s6SHOE0tF fFkleOC5iati9wtB+05fDUl9aAfpulcsPvc6h+cmg51oeeaZnLqpxExoc3+pErlAXxi1 KH8E1nFhb+VHwCcXBz5IAKel6I65bDfEq03QU= Received: by 10.52.71.7 with SMTP id q7mr25046vdu.20.1342182249393; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.75.106 with SMTP id b10ls1644866vdw.4.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.155.207 with SMTP id vy15mr26609vdb.13.1342182248857; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <02034674-7252-4332-941f-824e4851ab33@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <5000060E.4040309@gmail.com> References: <154f0c35-3c07-4e3f-b041-576ec7580d82@googlegroups.com> <326a568c-1704-41c8-affd-e20f8a227767@googlegroups.com> <5000060E.4040309@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: a LoCCan3 discussion platform? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_923_18491408.1342182248502" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_923_18491408.1342182248502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, July 13, 2012 3:27:10 PM UTC+4, And Rosta wrote: > > Gleki Arxokuna, On 13/07/2012 12:03: > > On Friday, July 13, 2012 1:54:09 PM UTC+4, tijlan wrote: > > Apparently some people have been giving much thought to the > > potentiality of a next-generation logical language, which > include > > myself even though I haven't taken part in the recent LoCCan3 > > conversation. The concept has at least intellectual merits and > may > > deserve detailed examination & organization. That's perhaps > beyond the > > scope of this mailing list, and the process might benefit from > inputs > > from different existing conlang (& natlang) communities. > > > > Is there a dedicated platform for such a process? Would you be > > interested in having one? > > There's the dormant jboske@yahoogroups.com, which would be appropriate if > this next generation language comes under the umbrella of the Loglan > project, and the dormant engelang@yahoogroups.com, for engelang > discussion in general. (Both lists are old, still functional, and owned by > me.) There's so much overlap between folk interested in engelangs and folk > interested in loglangs, that there wouldn't seem to be much point in > starting a new loglang list. > > > Oh. I just wanna invite everyone to this mailing list, not divert it > > from here. Ithkuil lovers, Esperanto speakers, Na'vi warriors, > > Klingon-speaking researchers of the universe > > That is Conlang List, the forum for discussion of all sorts of invented > language (except for the sociopolitical aspect of international auxiliary > languages). > Yes. which actually poses no interest for me if you wanna create naturalistic only lang. And there is nice conlangery.com podcast. Lojban can be naturalistic too... but without any external help. But I'm sure that Ithkuil can be discussed here too. There are not so many places where researchers can play with semantics and be creators at the same time. We must compare ithkuil's solutions with realisations in Lojban all the time, though. But non-artlangs and non-loglangs isn't worth discussing in most cases. > > --And. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/LjcOLR2j53cJ. 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On Friday, July 13, 2012 3:27:10 PM UTC+4, And Rosta wrote:Gleki Arxokuna, On 13/07/2012 12:03:
>     On Friday, July 13, 2012 1:54:09 PM UTC+4, tijlan wr= ote:
>         Apparently some people have been givin= g much thought to the
>         potentiality of a next-generation logi= cal language, which include
>         myself even though I haven't taken par= t in the recent LoCCan3
>         conversation. The concept has at least= intellectual merits and may
>         deserve detailed examination & org= anization. That's perhaps beyond the
>         scope of this mailing list, and the pr= ocess might benefit from inputs
>         from different existing conlang (&= natlang) communities.
>
>         Is there a dedicated platform for such= a process? Would you be
>         interested in having one?

There's the dormant jboske@yahoogroups.com, which would be appropriate if this nex= t generation language comes under the umbrella of the Loglan project, and t= he dormant en= gelang@yahoogroups.com, for engelang discussion in general. (Both lists= are old, still functional, and owned by me.) There's so much overlap betwe= en folk interested in engelangs and folk interested in loglangs, that there= wouldn't seem to be much point  in starting a new loglang list.

> Oh. I just wanna invite everyone to this mailing list, not divert = it
> from here. Ithkuil lovers, Esperanto speakers, Na'vi warriors,
> Klingon-speaking researchers of the universe

That is Conlang List, the forum for discussion of all sorts of invented= language (except for the sociopolitical aspect of international auxiliary = languages).
Yes. which actually poses no interest for me if you w= anna create naturalistic only lang. 
And there is nice conla= ngery.com podcast.

Lojban can be naturalistic too.= .. but without any external help.
But I'm sure that Ithkuil can b= e discussed here too. There are not so many places where researchers can pl= ay with semantics and be creators at the same time. We must compare ithkuil= 's solutions with realisations in Lojban all the time, though. But non-artl= angs and non-loglangs isn't worth discussing in most cases.

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