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 Content preview:  So, I'm really hoping this is straightforward. A long time
    ago, I wanted to say to somepony, "I'm halfway there." The easy way out is
    {mi xadba klama} But then I tell myself, this is Lojban, we have scalar negation,
    we should have scalar progress be easy to express. As usual, at first I found
    nothing, but now I have too many options and no way to tell them apart anymore.
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So, I'm really hoping this is straightforward.

A long time ago, I wanted to say to somepony, "I'm halfway there."
The easy way out is {mi xadba klama}

But then I tell myself, this is Lojban, we have scalar negation, we should 
have scalar progress be easy to express. As usual, at first I found 
nothing, but now I have too many options and no way to tell them apart 
anymore.

I get je'a, na'e, no'e, to'e. Those are cool. I don't expect them to be too 
useful here. However, it's probably a good idea to go ahead and tell me now 
if {je'a/no'e klama} makes any sense whatsoever.

What the hay is va'e? si'e? seci'u? Which, if any, applies here?
I have ideas for what they all mean, but the way they're defined 
altogether, especially the unaltered ci'e, confuse the hay out of me. 
(ciste doesn't mention scalar negation at all!)

So you know, my ideal would be a nice, succinct way to plug any number into 
something, like {pi xa ji'i mu} to get "I'm about 65% there." Even better 
would be knowing how the hay to use all these other things.

mu'o mi'e djos.

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So, I'm really hoping this is straightforward.<div><br></div><div><ponifyte=
xt>A long time ago, I wanted to say to <ponify title=3D"someone">somepony</=
ponify>, "I'm halfway there."</ponifytext></div><div>The easy way out is {m=
i xadba klama}</div><div><br></div><div>But then I tell myself, this is Loj=
ban, we have scalar negation, we should have scalar progress be easy to exp=
ress.&nbsp;As usual, at first I found nothing, but now I have too many opti=
ons and no way to tell them apart anymore.</div><div><br></div><div>I get j=
e'a, na'e, no'e, to'e. Those are cool. I don't expect them to be too useful=
 here. However, it's probably a good idea to go ahead and tell me now if {j=
e'a/no'e klama} makes any sense whatsoever.</div><div><br></div><div><ponif=
ytext>What <ponify title=3D"the heck">the hay</ponify> is va'e? si'e? seci'=
u? Which, if any, applies here?</ponifytext></div><div><ponifytext>I have i=
deas for what they all mean, but the way they're defined altogether, especi=
ally the unaltered ci'e, confuse <ponify title=3D"the heck">the hay</ponify=
> out of me. (ciste doesn't mention scalar negation at all!)</ponifytext></=
div><div><br></div><div><ponifytext>So you know, my ideal would be a nice, =
succinct way to plug any number into something, like {pi xa ji'i mu} to get=
 "I'm about 65% there." Even better would be knowing how <ponify title=3D"t=
he heck">the hay</ponify> to use all these other things.</ponifytext></div>=
<div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e djos.</div>

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