Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:41175) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SpiJR-0007Et-VP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:52 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf2146100bkw.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QU7bFrB9RgX5ol0nyRoHeLL8EEZYoj8SXcNXT8rZe14=; b=OXpwB5fKxyqj/6NzxA5rl38fzxXMObWxJaO6/xlE7Yo2YL+/6cRCZCztkL2zOBkgwZ eZQDdzLfsnuV8TyQqm5HxLw1UH1QERqAXAkQysEhZN0IT9zyfoS8rk8NoaRAjGZgNZk4 GCh5JTOybZS4T1oDWP4GEa7lJQ143Pmx94rQ8= Received: by 10.205.121.138 with SMTP id gc10mr102393bkc.33.1342195301116; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.4.74 with SMTP id 10ls3059202bkq.0.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.23 with SMTP id e23mr270518bkw.6.1342195299789; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.152.23 with SMTP id e23mr270517bkw.6.1342195299760; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si2047105bks.2.2012.07.13.09.01.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.175; Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l5so5293989lbo.20 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.166 with SMTP id q6mr1126681lbz.6.1342195299541; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:01:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_lujvo_for_=22spelling=22=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=5Blojban=2D?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?beginners=5D_How_do_you_write_=22Eyjafjallaj=F6kull=22=3F_=28a_sentence?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_from_tatoeba=29=29?= From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401faed0c63a504c4b832c3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0401faed0c63a504c4b832c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > On 12 July 2012 22:54, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jacob Errington > wrote: > >> > >> On 12 July 2012 20:41, Jacob Errington wrote: > >> > If by "answered" you're referring to that semantically incorrect use > of > >> > {tadji}, > >> > >> > then no, you haven't answered it at all. You've told me my solutions > >> > are no good, and I've thus made more. I have yet to see you > >> > reciprocate that behaviour. > > > > > > Also, I've seen no opinion's as to the "semantic correctness" of using > tadji > > besides your own. To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or the > > other. Until at least one of them does, I'm going to continue with the > > opinion that there is nothing wrong with using tadji to ask how to spell > > something. > > > > > > Talk of our discussion transpired into #lojban. The consensus is that > using tadji is wrong or malglico: > > [11:01] .i ma tadji lo nu ciska lo vi valsi -- does feel > slightly off. Personally I'd use dratai or similar > [11:01] <@xalbo> "How do you spell this word?" as {tadji} feels malgli > to me. I very much prefer {ma lerpoi zo broda} (or whatever) > [11:02] See we all agree :) > [11:02] < @xalbo> If the answer is "With a pen", then you're asking > the wrong question. > "To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or the other." This statement is still true. Also, you people use maglico way too often and inappropriately. {maglico} refers to things which are wrong because they reflect ENGLISH. If it's not an anglicism, it's not malglico. > mu'o mi'e la tsani > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jacob Errington= <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 July 2012 22:54, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12 July 2012 20:41, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > If by "answered" you're referring to that seman= tically incorrect use of
>> > {tadji},
>>
>> > then no, you haven't answered it at all. You've told = me my solutions
>> > are no good, and I've thus made more. I have yet to see y= ou
>> > reciprocate that behaviour.
>
>
> Also, I've seen no opinion's as to the "semantic correctn= ess" of using tadji
> besides your own. To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or t= he
> other. Until at least one of them does, I'm going to continue with= the
> opinion that there is nothing wrong with using tadji to ask how to spe= ll
> something.
>
>

Talk of our discussion transpired into #lojban. The consensus is that=
using tadji is wrong or malglico:

[11:01] <selpa`i> .i ma tadji lo nu ciska lo vi valsi -- does feel slightly off. Personally I'd use dratai or similar
[11:01] <@xalbo> "How do you spell this word?" as {tadji} f= eels malgli
to me. I very much prefer {ma lerpoi zo broda} (or whatever)
[11:02] <selpa`i> See we all agree :)
[11:02] < @xalbo> If the answer is "With a pen", then you&#= 39;re asking
the wrong question.

"To date, no jbocertu has= made a comment one way or the other."

This statement is still = true.

Also, you people use maglico way too often and inappropriately= . {maglico} refers to things which are wrong because they reflect ENGLISH. = If it's not an anglicism, it's not malglico.
=A0
mu'o mi'e la tsani

> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
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