Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:50076) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Spir7-0007js-N9; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:41 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf3945736obb.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=poJX9GHHoqBP3m9v82QI1PYGZYYv9obvQeJagCCABGo=; b=7DPCnnJh7lIn0mdcbEOHmso5wO6Ts6ZDmYOcf4WVAqH2fior/kPyK+9KjwNhq4xshk IfN0BoLtc2uAlI0C8oNH08qw4cX0ofv/gsLmJVJnBcojITi8qm/yaDlG/AW/oXIiMmEi YQlr5tB8tjrH5G55JdVD27B/amelsugT47DZQ= Received: by 10.68.244.100 with SMTP id xf4mr384025pbc.3.1342197391258; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.229.8 with SMTP id sm8ls9552241pbc.0.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.240.101 with SMTP id vz5mr1975946pbc.4.1342197390730; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.240.101 with SMTP id vz5mr1975939pbc.4.1342197390688; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com (mail-pb0-f48.google.com [209.85.160.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si565202pbc.1.2012.07.13.09.36.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.48; Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id rq8so6472800pbb.7 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.130.9 with SMTP id oa9mr5088469pbb.95.1342197390411; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.71 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8ffd2928-910d-4818-8546-8c84e3678abe@googlegroups.com> References: <8ffd2928-910d-4818-8546-8c84e3678abe@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:36:30 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] scalars and portion selbri From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / What about {sela'u}? On 13 July 2012 12:15, djandus wrote: > So, I'm really hoping this is straightforward. > > A long time ago, I wanted to say to somepony, "I'm halfway there." > The easy way out is {mi xadba klama} > > But then I tell myself, this is Lojban, we have scalar negation, we should > have scalar progress be easy to express. As usual, at first I found nothing, > but now I have too many options and no way to tell them apart anymore. > > I get je'a, na'e, no'e, to'e. Those are cool. I don't expect them to be too > useful here. However, it's probably a good idea to go ahead and tell me now > if {je'a/no'e klama} makes any sense whatsoever. > > What the hay is va'e? si'e? seci'u? Which, if any, applies here? > I have ideas for what they all mean, but the way they're defined altogether, > especially the unaltered ci'e, confuse the hay out of me. (ciste doesn't > mention scalar negation at all!) > > So you know, my ideal would be a nice, succinct way to plug any number into > something, like {pi xa ji'i mu} to get "I'm about 65% there." Even better > would be knowing how the hay to use all these other things. > > mu'o mi'e djos. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/4w1f6YTX2I0J. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.