Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:45050) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SpkCL-0008Hs-6N; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:46 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf2216070eaa.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+ODllqG8KcxyUXboB7CkOvENneyDigjh4XDNNOE5yyw=; b=vYv0N4jpz5vSdRiVbQHNFQh8BAfRedGRWQ3xnp8vf/Zh3/zRvhySTCBEQ5yiUb360b ACBOeC+LaH7uy9Fq/u4y1FebFHOL7qUnsX9F00Bp0U8L09ErhW0eHHiCxuie6PjfvR8L XM0rTVlqCzRkp39nQLuQk2loHYOUudk5ety2k= Received: by 10.204.10.67 with SMTP id o3mr143227bko.34.1342202549511; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.7.213 with SMTP id e21ls3244803bke.2.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr316305bkc.8.1342202547724; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr316304bkc.8.1342202547699; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si2108295bks.2.2012.07.13.11.02.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.172; Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id go11so4884515lbb.3 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr2277808lab.42.1342202547474; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:02:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_lujvo_for_=22spelling=22=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=5Blojban=2D?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?beginners=5D_How_do_you_write_=22Eyjafjallaj=F6kull=22=3F_=28a_sentence?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_from_tatoeba=29=29?= From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2345890f114804c4b9e215 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f2345890f114804c4b9e215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Adam Lopresto wro= te: > > [11:01] <@xalbo> "How do you spell this word?" as {tadji} feels malgli >>> to me. I very much prefer {ma lerpoi zo broda} (or whatever) >>> [11:02] See we all agree :) >>> [11:02] < @xalbo> If the answer is "With a pen", then you're asking >>> the wrong question. >>> >> >> "To date, no jbocertu has made a comment one way or the other." >> >> This statement is still true. >> >> Also, you people use maglico way too often and inappropriately. {maglico= } >> refers to things which are wrong because they reflect ENGLISH. If it's n= ot >> an anglicism, it's not malglico. >> > > I said malgico, and I meant it. Using {tadji} for "How is this spelled?" > is like translating =AB=BFC=F3mo se llama?=BB as "How are you called?" or= {ma tadji > lo nu rinsa do}. The "how" is an accident of the fact that colloquial > English for some reason chooses that instead of "What is the spelling > of...?" > Except that tadji is a what.... > mu'o mi'e la xalbo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Adam Lopresto = <adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote:

[11:01] <@xalbo> "How do you spell this word?" as {tadji} f= eels malgli
to me. I very much prefer {ma lerpoi zo broda} (or whatever)
[11:02] <selpa`i> See we all agree :)
[11:02] < @xalbo> If the answer is "With a pen", then you&#= 39;re asking
the wrong question.

"To date, no j= bocertu has made a comment one way or the other."

This st= atement is still true.

Also, you people use maglico way too often an= d inappropriately. {maglico} refers to things which are wrong because they = reflect ENGLISH. If it's not an anglicism, it's not malglico.

I said malgico, and I m= eant it. Using {tadji} for "How is this spelled?" is like transla= ting =AB=BFC=F3mo se llama?=BB as "How are you called?" or {ma ta= dji lo nu rinsa do}. The "how" is an accident of the fact that co= lloquial English for some reason chooses that instead of "What is the = spelling of...?"

Except that tadji is a what....
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mu'o mi'e la xalbo

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